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chris gadsden

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A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs August 22/23
« on: August 24, 2004, 11:07:54 PM »

Monday was the day Dale and I decided to make our annual 2 day trip Northward with spring jacks the quarry.

Was glad to be able to get away from the week of work of planning and staging of OB.

Spent too much time Sunday night on the forum, sending out e-mails re OB, and getting ready for the trip until 3am so headed to the meeting place were I was to meet Dale at 5am.

 I parked outside Tim Hortons and slept in the Leaf Mobile until he arrived at 4:40, Yes crazy I know. ;D

We slipped in to TH for a quick coffee and we of course were bubbling with enthusasim for the trip is always a good one.

The coffee was gluped down in a hurry and with Dale leading the way we were heading North on a darkened Trans Canada Highway. Some poor workers were already on their daily commute to points West, glad I was not one of them. ;D

Travelling over the Agassiz - Rosedale Bridge I notice lights at Cheam Beach,  boats coming back from a night of illegal drift fishing would not be a bad guess. :(

On the way along Highway # 7 I see a few cars of Rec anglers whose occuponts were on the way to the river, in the still darken grey morning.

If they were going bb how I wish they would now refrain from this type of fishing as they are putting undue stress on the sockeye that have been taking such a beating this year. We have to learn to fish selectively people or it will cost us big time in the future.

We are in Yale in no time as dawn starts to break. I pour a cup of coffee from the thermos to help keep me awake but surprisely am not doing that badly after less than 2 hours of shuteye last night or make it morning. ;D

Boston Bar, Jackass Mountain, all fall behind us as the traffic has now thinned to mostly truckers manouvering their trailers around the countless curves of Highway 1. I have to manouver around a few fallen rocks, thats why I prefer to drive this area in the light.

I also think of Simon Fraser in 1806 as we pass the areas that drop off straight down to the Fraser churning current a few hundred feet below. What a feat for him to traverse through this rugged terrain then.

I also wonder how the river must have teemed salmon in those days and now we seem bent on destroying them thanks to our greed and the inaction of the Government to protect them.

My mind slips away from these thoughts as Lytton looms ahead and the fishing area is no far away. ;D

We arrive at the "spot" and find it vacant, Dale bounds out of his truck and in no time flat lowers his gear by rope over the cliff to the green Thompson waters below.
I say " go ahead I am going to take my time and will see you in a few minutes".

I untangle my rope from the back of my always messy truck, tie on the rod, the cooler containing my roe, tackle box etc. and lower it all down towards Dale who is into a fish already.

My pulse quickens as on his next cast jack number 2 is bouncing on the shore. ;D

By the time I climb down he has 3 , one away from his limit.

I settle on to Chris' rock and bait up and the Thompson float (my name for a balsa float) is bobbing happly along it favourite route in the pool.

It takes me a while for the first bite and I actually miss a 3 or 4 before connecting with fish number 1, a silver beauty of a fish considering the distance they have travelled on their migration route from some distant points of the Pacific Ocean.

The 16" fish is quickly bled and put in a safe spot so not to bounce back into the river. The weather is fairly cool and is overcast, makes for pleasant fishing as it can get to the high 30 at this time of year.
Lytton sets record highs in all of Canada at times.

 I then foul hook a sockeye and it is very beat up from a couple of seal bites or freeing itself from a net.
Dale and I remark how we are seeing no sockeye showing or flipping like we usually do, more bad signs.

It takes Dale time to get his 4th with me sitting at 1 , I then go for something to eat once again making the tricky walk up the cliff back to the truck.

Dale cleans his fish 3 whites and a red and then says he is heading to do some exploring and then on to Spences Bridge. We agree on a meeting place after I fill out my limit as well, hopefully I can as these guys are lovely eating as wella s fun to ctch. Love seeing the Thompson float going down.

After the late breakfast I once again pick my way back to the pool and on the first two casts two jacks have made the fatal mistake of taking hold of the pro cured spring bait.

It then takes me a while to fill out my limit but I am in no hurry, I just am enjoying the sights and sounds of the mighty Thompson as it roars by at my feet.

Fish number finally 4 comes and I clean them in the too warm water, must be close to 70 degrees F.

I tie everything back onto the rope and haul it up to the truck, heavier than on the way down. ;D ;D The fish are then packed and chilled on ice and I head for a much needed rest.

I get about 1 hour or so of sleep before I am are awaken to laughter echoing across the Canyon walls. Looking below I see the source of this laughter, a few rafts of river rafters shooting the rapids. Looks like fun, should do it one day but I would want to be let off to try some new fishing spots. ;D

Talking of rest, the 2 day trip is catching up to me and will continue the rest of this story tomorrow. ;D ;D
« Last Edit: August 24, 2004, 11:42:30 PM by chris gadsden »
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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2004, 11:15:00 PM »

Hey Chris, sounds like fun!  How do u fish for Spring Jacks, same as COHO etc?  Might have to give that a try, find everything slippery?
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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2004, 11:17:41 PM »

Float fishing just like Coho, no ripping required. ;D ;D

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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2004, 11:19:43 PM »

I might have to take that up as it is close to home.   Do jacks count as springs?  they have to be recorded?
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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs August 22/23
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2004, 11:31:04 PM »

Adult Chinook as described in the regulations must be recorded onto your license.  Over the specified size is considered an adult,  and under a jack.
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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs August 22/23
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2004, 01:36:41 AM »

Jacks do not have to be recorded on your licence.
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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs August 22/23
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2004, 09:21:27 AM »

Part 2. ;D

As the river rafters from Kumsheen continue their journey to their pull out site at Lytton I hop into the Leaf Mobile and head towards Spences Bridge to find Dale.

First I stop at a FN dip net site and view from the road 2 fellows, one cleaning a fish while the other peers into the Thompson, dip net at the ready.

He has a rope around his waist, a good move as one false step could mean certain death with a fall into the raging waters below him.

I watch for a while but he has no success and he seems to have lots of patients, just like us sports anglers have to have at times. ;D

I then return to the truck and continue North enjoying the sights of the legendary Thompson River along the way while most vehicles speed by me, in a rush to get to their destination I guess.

I find Dale at our agreed camping site. He has had a nap also, picked some berries, got chased by a rattle snake, and cleaned up some beer tins in the area. ( by the end of the trip we had $32.45 worth, enough for some of our gas). ;D

He asks me if these are choke cherries he has but I have no idea.

We later run into a fellow who is doing a little gold panning and is camped in the same area who tells Dale they are just that.

Dale smiles tells me he has wine making on his mind. Choke cherry wine. :D Sound good if you are into wine drinking.  ;D

We then after a brief walk jump into my truck and head for Spences Bridge for a coffee as my thermos is dry as the climate in this area is, semi desert I believe you call it.

As we drive along the twisting Highway Dale points out some of the famous steelhead runs I have heard about, Coopers, The Grave Yard to name a couple.


He had fished for the famous Thompson steelhead for many years when they were abundant and had some great fish stories that I enjoyed hearing about.

So sad now that they have been depleted so that they were closed last season in a last ditch effort to try and save them.

Changing weather condition, too much water taken for irrigation from some of the production streams, overfishing by all sectors in the past including the deadly nets that intercept them through their migration routes through the Lower Fraser and Fraser Canyon.

It is a shame that man as so little respect for this mighty fish.

After coffee we look at the Nicola, a few people fishing, apparently there was an adult chimook opening on the North side that started that day.

We see a dead chinook and a dead sockeye but no fish caught in the few minutes we were there.

We head back toward camp and I buy some apples and an onion at a fruit stand.

The onion along with fresh potatoes and carrots are a good mix with part of a fresh jack spring that I cook up for supper.

I can still smell the aroma of it all, mixed with the clean air of the area, no smog or visible pollution here. ;D

With supper completed the long day catchs up to me and I am asleep by 7:30, the earliest in a long time.

Day 2 starts with me being awaken by Dale shaking me and the Leaf Mobile out of a deep sleep.

With close to 10 hours of sleep I am ready for the day ahead as we quickly pack up and head for the "spot" in the still darken night air.

On arrivial Dale is quickly on his way while I take my time once again as after yesterdays action I knew the fish run was in full swing and the fish would not be hard to catch.


Dale has just got to the hole when a truck pulls up and 3 fellows pile out and are disappointed to see us there. Probaley left Vancouver at 3 am.

I tell them there is lots of other good spots and they nod agreement before heading off to seek out one.

By the time I reach Dale he is into fish and in no time has his 4 while I have only one but by 8 am I too have limited out with 4 plump and firm jack springs.

I briefly try some pro cured shrimp but the jacks which I am sure are in the run do not seem to fancy them at all.

I then pack up towrds the truck, once again using the rope method that is now about 10 pounds heavier with the 4 jacks aboard. ;D

I have a quick breakfast before we head to Boston Bar for a coffee, stopping at a few sites on the way to add a few more bottles to our collection.

Over coffee we see Canada being beat up by Cuba in the baseball game.

Dale decides to head for home while I take a slow drive towars home stopping at a few historic sites including a cementary by the old Alexandria Lodge.

Was hard to read the head stones of most but one was of a lady named Chapman who lived to 92 and was born on the early 1800's. Most likely Chapman Bar was named after her family.

I also stop at the site of the Alexandria Bridge, did not walk down but read about it on the dispay boards, was a bit of a marvel building it and it was nearly washed away in the Great Flood of 1894 on the Fraser.

I think of the millions of fish that have swum under her in just under 150 years since she was constructed.

I return to the truck and continue my journey down the "Gold Rush Trail" as heavy rain begins to fall. The road becomes a bit slippery as pools of water begin to form on the road's surface.

  I cut back on the gas peddle some but most cars speed past me including on that is getting a ticket from the RCMP by Dogwod Valley as I pass by, I was tempted to honk the horn. ;D ;D

I slip into the Home Resturant and it is so busy, always is, must be a gold mine of its own.


I order chips as well as coffee as feel a bit guilty having a table just for coffee with so many others waiting.

A table over I see the three fellows that had come to the same fishing hole we were at. They were pleased as they all had limited out as well in a spot they found.

After leaving the Home I go to the mouth of the Coq. and are distressed to see dozens of dead sockeye long the gravel bar including one large chinook.

I guess the warm water as got them along with the stress of all the nets that have ben in the water at the same time.

I hope the bb guys stop fishings as well, as their catch and release of the sockeye will not be helping matters either.

Remember what I mentioned above about the Thompson Steelhead, it could happen to the sockeye if we all are not careful.

As I leave the area with a heavy heart after seeing all the dead sockeye bodies, firefighters are now on the scene to put out a fire in an old growth cedar. Lightning strike I ask one of the Forest service workers, "Kids was his brisk response". :o

Bad news to a otherwise good trip.

I stop at Jones Creek parking area next to the tracks next and another ugly scene rears its ugly head as the mess left by the fishers and I use the term fishers loosely is terrible. Everything that could be dumped there was. I hope some of the guys that fish there will go up and clean it up but I will not hold my breath.

I arrive at Chilliwack a bit dejected now and I take the bottles in we have collected, maybe should have picked up the mess I think instead of lining my pockets with bottle money. ???

I deliver a fish to my son and then to my sister who invites me to her birthday party that included the fish I dropped off.

Being with family over a lovely dinner capped off which in the most part was an excellent conclusion to a 2 day trip to the Legendary and Mighty Thompson River.

I can hardly wait until next year when she will call me once again to enjoy a couple of days with Dale on her waters for some more jack spring fishing.


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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs August 22/23
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2004, 09:42:14 AM »

enjoyed both parts thanks

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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs August 22/23
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2004, 11:03:54 AM »

Great post Chris! & yes, why are people still flossin......stop ****kicking the sox!
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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs August 22/23
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2004, 03:45:58 PM »

Interesting and excellent report Chris, as usual.
Now you got me pumped up for a try at the Thompson.
From your description, I gathered that you were somewhere between Lytton and Spences Bridge. I know you would not want to give away the "SPOT", but can you ease my curiosity and clue me in as to how to locate a similarly succesful spot. What bait were you using? Under a float? Were you at the camp site outside of SB for your overnight?
All that area is totally unknown to me and any clue would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs August 22/23
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2004, 04:38:52 PM »

Always enjoyable to lean back and take a trip to the Thompson River (or anywhere else for that matter) with Chris. Both episodes were excellent and I am now eager to head out there this weekend for a one niter and try my hand at jacks. Jumping Jacks you say.
Thanks Chris, moocho appreciato. ;D
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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs August 22/23
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2004, 05:08:20 PM »

A much deserved break after a hectic  weak. Sounds like you had an excellent time followed by an excellent story.
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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs August 22/23
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2004, 06:35:19 PM »

I'll come if I get the steak and eggs ;D ;D
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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs August 22/23
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2004, 07:04:14 PM »

  I know wher you were fishing. But I'm not telling! Nice to see others enjoy the Thompson as much as I do. Next trip drop in and visit my freinds Claude & Linda at the Big Horn Trading Post. Largest westren hat store this side of Alberta.  You might want to talk to Swede at wildhorsedories.com  for that river trip. Tell Swede the Preacher sent you.
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Re:A Trip To The Thompson For Jack Springs August 22/23
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2004, 07:14:39 PM »

Stopped at the bighorn 2 weeks ago for fruit hadn't been there in years .Man were we surprised. looked aroud and bought a shirt. No fruit!
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