Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: drift on March 29, 2006, 10:34:31 AM
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Hi,I was recently given a reel that I plan on using for Coho this year.I need to get it spooled and I was wondering what everybody uses for line?What would be the minimum lb test you would use and how many yards?I mostly fish the Kitimat,Also does anybody use low profile reels for coho?Coho wont be here untill Sept so I have lots of time,just curious?
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12lb maxima mainline should work well. As for low profile reels, ask Rodney, he likes to use them.
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Thanks Biff! :)
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Ya but I only catch small fish. :-[ ;)
I like low profiles because they are flatter, easier on my hands, and lighter. You're fishing in Kitimat, the fish will probably be bigger, the line capacity of a low profile might not be enough (120 meters of 12lb test).
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Thanks Rod.So do you think 150 yards would be a safer bet?
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It depends on how fast you can run. ;D Honestly others would be able to answer this question better than me as I have not fished in that area before. :)
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;Dthanks
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It's going to depend on your leader. A light leader means more mainline because you can't horse the fish in, you'll have to let it run.
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I personally use 15 lb Maxima mainline for all me salmon fishing.. the only exception would be on my Barfishing reel.... 15 lbs is light enough for coho and steelies but still has enough back bone to fight a big smelly spring ;D
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Put 200 yds of 12# Fireline on then add a topshot of mono=no need to run after fish.
Good advice about the longer rod.
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Hi all,
newbie here form the UK (but now a BC resident so expect to see me on here regularly),
I'm just wondering why no one uses braid line for drift fishing? (I think that's the terms you use for running a float down a river)
I've not used it over here myself, but was going to as I figured it'd make for better float control (lower diameter=less surface drag) and better hook setting at range due to lack of stretch. So I'd just like to know if you guys know something I don't?
I've used it back in the UK and it was sweet - but the whloe setup back there was much lighter and for smaller fish. I know it's not as abraison resistant but having fished the vedder I wouldn't have thought that a problem (ie not many huge boulders for fish to get stuck behind) - even if that were the case a good lenght of mono leader would solve this.
I'm not wanting to sound like I'm critisising your methods, just curious what you think about this?
all the best,
cheers,
Paul.
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Hey Paul, I use braid for my float fishing and love it despite some downside to it.
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Thanks for all the reply's!I was planning on using my 8 ft but I do have a 10.5 ft trophy xl(medium heavy)that has been collecting dust.As for living in Kitimat,it's a three minute walk to my fishing hole.The sad thing is due to employment changes I might be moving to Houston this summer.It's only 4 hours away from Kitimat so not too bad I guess.I can also fish the bulkley and morice which is near Houston.Anyways thanks again people!
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Hey Murkeywaters... don't hesitate to give braid a try... especially in murkey waters... lol. There are many advantages to using braid for river fishing. Such as thinner diameter = more line cap, more sensitivity, it lasts a long time because it's not affected by UV rays and doesn't have memory, I find the birdsnest are easier to untangle, it has a 0.97 weight ratio and the water has a 1.0 weight ratio which means braid floats better than mono as it has a weight ratio of 1.15 , mono also absorbs water and braid doesn't. I always use braid as my mainline, depending on the clarity of the water I add a topshot of mono, If the water is ultra clear I just add a longer/thinner topshot. It is also more cost effective as you don't have to constantly respool entire spools of mono. I think the reason why you don't see alot of people using it on the flows is because they don't think it is stealthy enough or they are just stuck in their ways.
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I myself use a braided line for all of my river fishing. I use lines like Spider Wire Stealth & Fire Line and now I'm using Stren Super Braid. I have found them all to be very good for the different fishing I do. Ihave been using a braid line for atleast 10 years now with no problems as of yet. Griz.
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no need for braided line , i use 10lb,main and 8lb leader maxima ultra green . i find the lighter line you use the better drift it stays more horizontal in the water towards your rod. if you end up breaking off, mono line deterioates, where as braided dose not , therefore it stays in the water ,not good . as for the memory i find maxima ultra green is awsome the line staightens out just fine. i also see guys fishing with 20lb test and loose more fish,than guys with lighter line,because the guys with the lighter line play the fish because they now that if they dont it will break off. whereas the other guys figure they heavy line so they horse the fish in and quite often loose thier fish, becuase they create a bigger hole in the fishes mouth which intern is easier for the hook to come out on a head turn.
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For those of you using a topshot of mono, just wondering what knot you use to tie into the backing?
I would like to give it a try but would hate to lose my whole mono end to a poorly tied knot, esp if tying into braid backing as I don't have much experience with braid knots.
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Double Uni Knot
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I use a blood knot and it has yet to fail on me. Depending on the diameter of the top shot I usually wrap it 11 times on each side or less while leaving a larger loop in the middle to put the ends through. Use a pair of pliers to hold the loose ends while tightening it. tighten it most of the way then wet the knot and finish tightening, and cut the excess. Here's a link to the tying instructions:
http://www.steelheader.net/knots/blood_knot.htm
If you find the knot is affecting your casting try covering it with Pilobond and shape it into a smooth oval.
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the blood knot is my 'go to' knot for tippet to leader connection so perhaps I will have to tie up a couple o' knots and try an informal break test.
Have you guys tried the Albright knot? I really like that one for braid backing to flyline, but have never tried it from braid to mono really...
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Thanks for that Eagle Eye and Griz,
What you say is exactly what I was thinking.
KO I can see where you are coming from regarding playing a fish, yes it’s easier to rip a hook out for sure, especialy for begineers, plenty of merrit there! Lack of stretch has to be compensated for.
However if you know how to play a fish and use your clutch in combination with the action of rod you are using (ie understanding the blance between the 2) you can soon overcome this.
I also agree about leaving long lengths of braid in the river – not good. But simply using a topshot of a weaker strength will mean you can always pull for a break if you are snagged with out leaving lot of line in the water.
(“Topshot” – I think that’s what you mean by a sort length of line between main line and hook – say 1-3 foot long – I’d call it a hook length – but I’m in your country so I’d best learn you terms – tell me if I’m wrong)
KO where I disagree with you is about “the ligher line for better drift” – this is exactly why I use braid, 20lb braid is thinner and is far more managable on a drift than 10lb mono – sorry I am not telling you this, that’s just my opinion – I respect your opinion, but I disagree.
Braid line has no memory (in my experience), I use 20lb because braid is less abrasion resitstant than mono – so just incase I go 10lb heavier – but I still have a thinner more managable line than 10lb mono.
Anyway it’s great to get feedback from all of you, I’m coming here from the UK with my own ideas, and I am keen to put them up for discussion because the fishing over here is totally new to me. I want to learn, but I don’t want to throw everthing I’ve learned in the past 25 years out of the window without finding out about the why you guys do it differently – if that is the case.
Tight lines all,
Cheers,
Paul..
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(“Topshot” – I think that’s what you mean by a sort length of line between main line and hook – say 1-3 foot long – I’d call it a hook length – but I’m in your country so I’d best learn you terms – tell me if I’m wrong)
Welcome to B.C. and FWR Paul,
A topshot is like an extension of your mainline. I make mine approximately the length of my rod so that the knot does not get caught up in the line guide of my reel. I tie my braid to the mono with a blood knot. What you are calling a hook length we call a leader. If the water is murky it is not really necessary to use a topshot of mono but if there is some clarity to the water then using a topshot is more stealthy.
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I start using 20Lb Fireline on my baitcaster speically if i'm fishing on a drift boat. Because the line give no strech, my hook set will be instant. It works great on a long drif. The way i run my set up is attach the float on the mainline and connected with a snap... Then i do the "Kingfisher" style.. The length of the leader will determin the depth i gonna fish and i clip the split shot on the leader and usuallly the last shot to my hook is no more then 12". This way, i find it give me the most natural drift. In case i need to change my rig, i just change the entire leader.. With this setup, because your leader is way lighter then your main line, so even if you snag, your leader will break off first, not matter what. Therefore, there will be no bradied line pieces left in the water.