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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: fishinmansam on July 19, 2006, 12:15:35 AM
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hit the vedder today.. started at Allison pools were i used a vibrax spinner, i hit 2 springs and didn't manage to land them, i worked upstream by the big rock outcrop were no one else was for a while and got 1 springs in the faster water but did no manage to land him. if u stare down into the deepest part of the rock outcrop at Allison you can actually see the springs. after no more luck we headed down to the usual Keith Wilson bridge. it was weird i head a guy yelling HOLY cupcakes on top of the bridge so i go up there and see what the commotion is. i look down into the exact middle of the to bridge structures and there they are. he said he counted 15 but i count 12 huge chrome springs. well i go down about 100 yard downstream to a good looking spot and i see a MASSIVE Spring just pound the water 3 times in the same spot, i cast out above it and let it float down nicely. my bobber would once and a while dip but no fish on. i try more casts in the faster water, this time i add one single egg to the spinner. WHAM. FISH ON, runs over into the trees and i couldn't manage to get the fish out so i try to see Wat's going on happens to Be the fish is gone and I'm snagged on a bush, finally get everything back and sharpen my hook. well anyother man under the bridge who had to leave goes and i take his spot beside one other guy. 1st couple of casts with the spinner still on from the morning i hooked a small sockeye and realease him gently back into the water. everyone knew the springs were right there, casting right by them. no one gets anything. i choose to fish the deeper water were i saw nothing before. so my float is just floating nicely on the angle i like it at and it stops. i reel in and i know this time its a fish because my line was moving so i play him for no time really and loose him. after seeing this people start fishing the water were i was. it got darker and darker no one was getting anything every though they were jumping and there were right in front of our eyes. well one more guy shows up to the crowd. ooh we look who we got ourselves know. THE DENTIST comming down to check our freaking teeth. well were all just casting and one guys bobber goes down fast he reals in and says FISH ON, only it being the bb'ers line attached to his.... well he gets it off and hes like next time ill cut it. so he moves up across from were I'm casting. my float goes down fast also, guess whats on the end of my line. dentists Larry's FLOSS. man i felt like cutting it, but i decided to actuality throw it into a snag area because i didn't want to start a commotion. well he gets the snag off and moves FAR down stream. for the rest of the night, NO action on the rods, the springs were moving through in good numbers but no takes, they would smack the water(probably sea-lice) but thats it. Well thats my report. Also the vedder is the best Ive seen it at this time of year. they cleared out the snag areas and log jams in the bad areas and the river is looking very nice. in a few weeks the chinook should just be pilled in there(I HOPE). I heard of one fish taken at KWB on red and black wool early in the morning, people cleaning out ranger and a few being taken at lickman, other than that nothing. I was using a dink float with 1.5 inches of thin pencil lead, 3 feet leader(adjustable float for the deep holes and a vabrax spinner for most the day. i also tryed wool, ghost shrimp and pro cured roe but no takes.
well boys, good fishing to you all, tight lines and hope the vedder gets better very soon so we can go HOOK UP! FISH ON!
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Glad to finally hear fish being hooked.
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Fished from 4:30-9, form peach to lickman and there was no sign of spring. Everyone else got skunked as well. One boy with a worm and bobber got a ton of trout.
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Cool report,did I read it right?You were using a bobber with a spinner?Never heard of that setup before.Anymore details,leader line,weight,etc?Might like to try it.
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how big are the trout that are being caught ??? ??? ??? and what are they using ?
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no different than using a colorado and float
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no different than using a colorado and float
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Never seen it done,I know the blades are light so do you use split shot somewhere,sorry for the hijack.
Never mind,I remembered the old search button. :)
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thanks for the report, looking good for the coming weeks!
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yeah the spinner under the float works like a charm. the spinner just sinks straight down from the float so you can see every hook-up with a fish. i didn't have one hold up(snag) the whole day except for one branch at the KWB and lost my roe(NO BIG DEAL I HAVE A TUB FULL OF THAT STUFF). and yeah i cant wait for the fishing to pick up on the vedder.. but please guys, USE A FLOAT! tight lines.
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i cant stand to watch those people that set the hook everybite. let me make a point. Ive been out on the vedder in the summer time at great fishing holes were the fish are there and thick. lets say there were 100 fishers on the river that day. 2 out of 100 of them DONT flick there rods back every time there bobber dips down. guess who leaves with the fish.. They do. Ive experienced it before and seen it happen in clear water. the chinnook will set the hook. everytime(unless snagged) the chinnook will check it out(*nibble at it) and then if there interested they will strike it hard. on the first check when people try to set the hook the chinnook gets spooked because it moved rapidly. so nest time try this. when you float goes down let it keep floating. then tell me how your day went. tight lines.
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yeah there moving through in groups from 10 to 20 daily but they are not biting at all not even in the evening or morning?
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yeah thats probably it!
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I think that the fish are shell shocked as soon as they hit that part of the river, all those people ripping away at their lines setting the hook everytime their line touches the bottom!!! if you want to catch a fish you will have better luck getting away from the rippers and headin midstream I would think
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fishinmansam...I fished the allison yesterday...as I walked down the steep trail a young guy was fishing at the base of it...I advised him to watch out for any falling rocks as my dad and I decended the trail....was that you at the base of the cliff? The guy there said he has 2 on as well?!?
Much like everyone else here, I have seen little action lately. A party of 3 I was in hit something like 9 springs in 2 hrs last wednesday...my dad and I fish the upper end from 4-9 last night and then again from 430-930 this morning and he hit nothing...all the same holes, even the exact same bag of roe that slayed em last week....we couldnt turn a bite for the life of us.
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Gooey
Nine springs in the hatchery yesterday and fish holding in the Limits Hole. Counted another dozen in the first holding water above Slesse Creek.( Hatchery Pool )
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Gooey, yeah that was me. i was at the bottom there when the rafters came down. and yeah i lost two at allison yesterday but it seemed to be really slow, did you have any luck at all?
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thanks for the report
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Buck, I don't disagree with you, one tuesday evening I would guess I had 50 fish in the run infront of me, they were jumping at the head, the tail, in the middle...all friggin over the place!!! But not a single bite. Next morning was the same thing...lots of fish showing but only one flossed spring.
The springs are there, they just aren't biting.
And FMS...no we didnt have any luck on the vedder, I did how ever hit 2 springs on a different river ;) 8)
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Would love to get out to the Veddar with someone who knows the river good . Never really tried it spent 6 hours max out there . Found it to be really crowded fished the Allison pool and a couple spots just up from the highway off some dyke not the canal it was slower water deeper pools . Went out with a buddie who spends lots of time out there.
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patience will prevail. dont give up sooner or later those springs will bite . but when is anyones guess. they are in there. going up this weekend hopefully they will start to get more friskier by then tight lines and good luck to all ;D ;D 8) 8)
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The fish we were fishing have been POUNDED, the traffic on the river mid week was nutty and the weekend wont get any better. I saw one fish landed that has wounds from being snagged, these fish learn (and fast) so I think at this point in the season with this amount of preasure, you are in for a uphill battle.
I think I will start focusing on the lower end, trying to get some fresh fish that are just moving in. These fish should be more active, and wont have been so conditioned.
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50 plus on vedder for reds lol.
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DFO should be out fining people who are caught snagging... I remember back in the day a fisher could have all gear and vehicle taken away for being caught snagging steelhead, so a new hard line against these individuals is necessary...
These springs could be caught if they weren't pounded by hooks ripping though their holding water... Heck, they could even be hooked on the fly, if they were given a chance...
Cheers,
Nicole
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Had a look from the top of KWB this evening and saw one spring and about 20 sockeyes. Poor fish were being flogged. Why is everybody fishing 6 feet of float in two feet of water??
DFO should fine people who are snagging fish, only DFO are never around.
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DFO should fine people who are snagging fish, only DFO are never around.
Exactly, it's extremely frustrating to call in the violation and nothing is ever done. A couple of years ago I called in a violator at the mouth of the Seymour for snagging and exceeding his limit. The guy who answered the phone asked whether I can provide the car licence. I replied that I can't because I'm fishing on the opposite side of the river. His response was "too bad, we can't do anything about it" ???
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Had a look from the top of KWB this evening and saw one spring and about 20 sockeyes. Poor fish were being flogged. Why is everybody fishing 6 feet of float in two feet of water??
DFO should fine people who are snagging fish, only DFO are never around.
why? because one guy does it, he catches a fish, so everyone does it :) you have to realize that those people aren't fishin for fun, they are fishing for DINNER! well maybe some fun is involved...
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We only hae around 150 fisheries officers in all B.C. so that is why they are never around. We need more recruites. Fish&Wildlife Conservation Program is at B.C.I.T. if anyone is interested? It is 2 years full time school.
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why? because one guy does it, he catches a fish, so everyone does it :) you have to realize that those people aren't fishin for fun, they are fishing for DINNER! well maybe some fun is involved...
Makes no difference to me why they are out there, not even if they were fishing for a cure for cancer! Maybe a few lost vehicles would send a message...
Anyone out there fishing for food as a focus is in the wrong business... Sprtfishing is more expensive than most methods of buying fish (read $10 from the natives, or $20 from superstore)... Meat fishers should stick to sockeye, that's where they belong.
Cheers,
Nicole
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Yeah, but they start out buying the gear and having fun, but they cannot stand going home without meat.
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any new vedder/chilliwack report boys? ::)
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why? because one guy does it, he catches a fish, so everyone does it Smiley you have to realize that those people aren't fishin for fun, they are fishing for DINNER! well maybe some fun is involved...
I think the guys at the KWB knew the fish were sockeyes so they must be fishing for fun. Six feet of float and six foot leader bottom bounced can only mean one thing. One guy even commented that he liked way the sockeyes fought.
I thought the sockeye numbers were low for Chilliwak and Cultus lakes. Shouldn't the DFO do something so the sockeyes are left alone? Any decent fishermen would know the chinooks don't hang around in two feet of water for long.
It's much cheaper to buy fish like Nicole said. I know a guy who has the latest Simms G3 waders, jacket, boots and hat. He has a nice Sage rod with Shimano reel. Drives a new Ford F350. But this guy can't catch a fish if his life depended on it. In fact he always asks his buddies to catch some fish for him. He's really doing it for sport alright because he could have bought a truckload of salmon and halibut with his Simms outfit. Or he could have bought a lifetime's supply of fish with his F350.
I cycled from Peach to the train bridge this morning and didn't see any Springs hooked. Saw about ten guys out. Saw some fish splashing but I think they were sockeyes.
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Hey fishfinder got to agree with you on that one with regards to KWB. With this heat wave in the Fraser Valley, trying to intentionally catch sockeye should be frowned upon in the Vedder River. The stress those fish has to be under must be pretty high. Why DFO does not get involved in trying to crack down on this unnecessary harassment of sockeye salmon is anyone's guess.
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why? because one guy does it, he catches a fish, so everyone does it Smiley you have to realize that those people aren't fishin for fun, they are fishing for DINNER! well maybe some fun is involved...
I think the guys at the KWB knew the fish were sockeyes so they must be fishing for fun. Six feet of float and six foot leader bottom bounced can only mean one thing. One guy even commented that he liked way the sockeyes fought.
I thought the sockeye numbers were low for Chilliwak and Cultus lakes. Shouldn't the DFO do something so the sockeyes are left alone? Any decent fishermen would know the chinooks don't hang around in two feet of water for long.
It's much cheaper to buy fish like Nicole said. I know a guy who has the latest Simms G3 waders, jacket, boots and hat. He has a nice Sage rod with Shimano reel. Drives a new Ford F350. But this guy can't catch a fish if his life depended on it. In fact he always asks his buddies to catch some fish for him. He's really doing it for sport alright because he could have bought a truckload of salmon and halibut with his Simms outfit. Or he could have bought a lifetime's supply of fish with his F350.
I cycled from Peach to the train bridge this morning and didn't see any Springs hooked. Saw about ten guys out. Saw some fish splashing but I think they were sockeyes.
haha you just perfectly described Normfish lol
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By Doing that, 95% of the best flywater I fish would be off limits... At least allow fly fishing, then I'll be able to thrash around with my spey rod well away from you :)
Cheers,
Nicole
Fishfinder, even if fishing for fun these anglers should not be targeting Cultas sockeye as they are endangered as you have posted. Just like Fish Assasin says it is very frustrating, I reported 5 violators yesterday (1 was their spotter on the bridge) morning and I hear the same thing is going on at night. I know that DFO reads these posts and will hopefully have an officer out to fine these clowns. I can see a closure coming from just above the Vedder crossing to the mouth at the Fraser if this doesn't stop. Same old thing, the many pay for the actions of the few.
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fished from first light till 11:30, nary a wee sniff. saw a sockeye at Lickman, fished upper early, then mid river. not too many fisherman, only fish that I saw taken were by a guy and his son at lickman, targeting, and catching steelhead smolts with baby shrimp, ok I guess technically they're rainbows. anyhow, they had no trouble bonking 2 fish, both of which weren't even 10 inches long. the things you see when you don't have any cement shoes handy.