Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: Steelhawk on October 08, 2007, 10:58:11 PM
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What a Thanksgiving crowd today. Don't people have to help their wives to prepare for a turkey dinner? Must be lots of forgiving wives out there. ;D Anyway, lots & lots of people, never seen more people at the Vedder than today this year. Why today of all days? Must be people reading FWR and saw Allwaysfishin's report of hot coho action.. ;D And yet fishing has been the poorest for most people. Checked out upper, mid and lower section, and not many people got fish, not to say coho. The water was quite high and coloured for blades, so I chose to focus on pocket water. Very few fish got by until nearing evening. Only have one jack coho and 2 jack springs to show for the day, but the nice weather made up for poor fishing. I bumped into the old German tourist fisherman (per my last report) again today. He was quite happy to inform me that after we parted two days ago, he hit 2 cohos and one spring with the blade I gave him. What a happy old tourist fisherman he is now. Too bad the water today was not suitable for blades much. The water is dropping steadily towards the end of the day, hopefully it will clear up in a day or two. Tight line.
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Why don't you like blades for high colored water? Thats one of the best times for them!?!
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I thought the effectiveness of blades was based on the fluttering blade being visible to the fish - doesn't coloured water reduce visibility by the fish?
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When the water is high and dirty, I love hucking jigs and blades...both of which are visual presentations. Yes blades will get a visual response but I think they also sense the vibration thru the lateral line which makes them an effective low vis lure all the same. As well, when the river is high, fish condense into smaller more hospitable pockets and pools, in these conditions, its much easier to get your lure close to a fish so you don't need to rely on a large visual strike range possible in clear water.
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What a Thanksgiving crowd today. Don't people have to help their wives to prepare for a turkey dinner? Must be lots of forgiving wives out there. ;D Anyway, lots & lots of people, never seen more people at the Vedder than today this year. Why today of all days? Must be people reading FWR and saw Allwaysfishin's report of hot coho action.. ;D And yet fishing has been the poorest for most people. Checked out upper, mid and lower section, and not many people got fish, not to say coho. The water was quite high and coloured for blades, so I chose to focus on pocket water. Very few fish got by until nearing evening. Only have one jack coho and 2 jack springs to show for the day, but the nice weather made up for poor fishing. I bumped into the old German tourist fisherman (per my last report) again today. He was quite happy to inform me that after we parted two days ago, he hit 2 cohos and one spring with the blade I gave him. What a happy old tourist fisherman he is now. Too bad the water today was not suitable for blades much. The water is dropping steadily towards the end of the day, hopefully it will clear up in a day or two. Tight line.
There was alot of company fishing derby's this past weekend. This is quite common for this lond weekend.
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Hey were there 2 German tourist fishermen or just 1? I met two during my trip to the Thompson right before they shut ti down.
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When the water is high and dirty, I love hucking jigs and blades...both of which are visual presentations. Yes blades will get a visual response but I think they also sense the vibration thru the lateral line which makes them an effective low vis lure all the same. As well, when the river is high, fish condense into smaller more hospitable pockets and pools, in these conditions, its much easier to get your lure close to a fish so you don't need to rely on a large visual strike range possible in clear water.
Also try upsizeing the blade(for increased lateral line stimulation in the" louder" water) and going brighter(#4 hammered silver eg.)or chartruese/flourescent colours(for increased visual stimulation) if you can find them.
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What a Thanksgiving crowd today. Don't people have to help their wives to prepare for a turkey dinner? Must be lots of forgiving wives out there. ;D Anyway, lots & lots of people, never seen more people at the Vedder than today this year. Why today of all days? Must be people reading FWR and saw Allwaysfishin's report of hot coho action.. ;D And yet fishing has been the poorest for most people. Checked out upper, mid and lower section, and not many people got fish, not to say coho. The water was quite high and coloured for blades, so I chose to focus on pocket water. Very few fish got by until nearing evening. Only have one jack coho and 2 jack springs to show for the day, but the nice weather made up for poor fishing. I bumped into the old German tourist fisherman (per my last report) again today. He was quite happy to inform me that after we parted two days ago, he hit 2 cohos and one spring with the blade I gave him. What a happy old tourist fisherman he is now. Too bad the water today was not suitable for blades much. The water is dropping steadily towards the end of the day, hopefully it will clear up in a day or two. Tight line.
I have foiund this has been a great year on the Vedder. If one short floats with roe you will have great action. ;D ;D
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All very good ideas, guys. I guess it is a matter of personal preference on what the most effective method he/she would like to use for a certain water condition. Like the thread I started on Effective Coho Fishing Techniques in the Discussion section, there are methods to catch fish, and no one method works best at all times. Good that every body is enjoying the coho season so far. By the way, Chris, I remember you once reported that the Chilliwack Hatchery cut coho smolt stocking by 600k. Is this factual and when do we expect to see a shortfall of returning coho? That will be sad. Well, just enjoy the season while we still can. :)
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I'm a roe man myself, but could someone piont me in the right direction on how to fish blades and what kind.
I saw a person using a spinner under a float much like my short leader roe set-up, is that correct?
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I'm a roe man myself, but could someone piont me in the right direction on how to fish blades and what kind.
I saw a person using a spinner under a float much like my short leader roe set-up, is that correct?
I lenghten out the leader a bit( 2 to 3 feet) when using a Colorado blade with a float, have taken steelhead as well as coho with this method
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All very good ideas, guys. I guess it is a matter of personal preference on what the most effective method he/she would like to use for a certain water condition. Like the thread I started on Effective Coho Fishing Techniques in the Discussion section, there are methods to catch fish, and no one method works best at all times. Good that every body is enjoying the coho season so far. By the way, Chris, I remember you once reported that the Chilliwack Hatchery cut coho smolt stocking by 600k. Is this factual and when do we expect to see a shortfall of returning coho? That will be sad. Well, just enjoy the season while we still can. :)
Cannot remember but it could be on the Hatchery web pages.
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Just looked it up 2004 1.5 mil, 2005 1.6 and last season 1 million smolts released.
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So with a 4 years life span, we will expect the 2009 year to be hit by the stocking reduction?
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Last season would be 2006. Wouldn't it be 2010 be effected?
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Last season would be 2006. Wouldn't it be 2010 be effected?
I believe the smolts are one year old already when released!
Hotrod
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Last season would be 2006. Wouldn't it be 2010 be effected?
I believe the smolts are one year old already when released!
Hotrod
Good job someone is on the ball
4-1=3(2006+3=2009)
Steelhawks math is correct 2009 ;D
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Oh well, I did pass math 101, you know. ;D But who knows if these things stick to exact math. BwiBwi may hit the jack pot if the hatchery cut 600k eggs and not 600k smolts. ;D ;D Why did they cut coho stocking anyways? They should increase stocking. Don't they want to do it for 2010 Winter Olympics like what they did for Expo 86, when the rivers were flooded with abundant fish for the tourists. :D ;D
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I'm a roe man myself, but could someone piont me in the right direction on how to fish blades and what kind.
I saw a person using a spinner under a float much like my short leader roe set-up, is that correct?
Try Gibbs #3 gold for clear to green water. Frog water;2'-4' under float depending on depth.Cast out and retreive DEADslow so the blade just flips over.Deep pools;Weight at your feet/float at your head.Dead slow retreive to retreiving with a touch of speed or fluttering under tesion in a current seam.Runs;drift downsteam in the seams/likely spots about 2/3 to bottom.Boulder patches:1'-2'under float.Drift down seams and swing aroud boulders under tension(be prepared to lose some gear.)Go larger and Brighter as water conditions get dirtier/colder.Go to the next size or same size hammered finish or same size in silver.In dirty and or very cold water I like a # 4 hammered silver.Cast and retrieve can also be effective This is just my .02 for a starting point and my personal guidelines.More involved would include the subtle nuances of gold /copper/brass/tarnished brass/painted blades and build your own.