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Title: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Every Day on March 02, 2008, 09:50:17 PM
Well went out today at around 12 in the afternoon. Fished at Lickman road for about 2 hours along with many other anglers but no one was seeming to catch or hook anything. I talked to around 12 other people and no one had seen or hooked any so I decided to move on. Walked upriver for quite some time and walked past some very nice looking runs but had only one run in mind, a run where I was sure fish would be sitting.

I get there and look in the sand and see no new foot-prints so I fugure I'm the first one of the day, which I assumed was a good sign. I rig up my hook with pink and white wool, some shrimp scent, and a jensenegg and cast out. I take 2 casts and keep hitting bottom so I move up my float a bit and see some nicer water a little ways to my left and farther out. I take one cast through and get 2 taps, I assume they are bottom but decide to leave my float alone. My next cast I hear something behind me and turn around to find nothing is there, but all of a sudden my rod is shaking. I look back and my float is gone. I give my wrist a small snap and a fish jumps out of the water. I takes 2 more jumps and thrashes around a bit and starts off down river. I dont want it to go into the rapids below and apply some side pressure and surprisingly it stops! A few minutes later it comes to hand. It was around 12 to 14 pounds. Here are some pics of me with it on my lawn ^^ (Can't give away my spot) Well it's my first Steely of the year and my 1st hatchery ever! Thanks for all the tips every 1 gave me!

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Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: kingpin on March 02, 2008, 10:04:25 PM
ya i saw you land it looked about 11-12 nice one.
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Every Day on March 02, 2008, 10:06:04 PM
Lol were you one of the spey-fishers on the other side of the river? I saw like 3 guys watching me.... I made a big mistake though, bled it on the shore line :-\ kinda stupid on my part, tried to clean up but still some visible blood  ::)
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: kingpin on March 02, 2008, 10:35:44 PM
na i cant lower myself to spey fish... i was just casually walking by.
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Fish Assassin on March 02, 2008, 10:37:45 PM
Your smile says it all. :)
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: DionJL on March 02, 2008, 10:43:47 PM
Nice fish. Heard of a few caught today.

And don't worry if you bleed the fish there and think your giving away the spot. If 3 people (or more) saw you then word will spread. Next time you go there there will be 10 guys. LOL
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Every Day on March 02, 2008, 11:01:40 PM
Nice fish. Heard of a few caught today. And don't worry if you bleed the fish there and think your giving away the spot. If 3 people (or more) saw you then word will spread. Next time you go there there will be 10 guys. LOL

Dang lol.... normally there are like 3 other guys that know how to fish the water and were kind enough to show me how to as well. Most guys I've seen go there take like 5 casts, snag up, get frustrated and then leave so I have no complaints. And kingpin if you were on the dike you coulnd't have seen me landing it because I was above the where the dike ends ^^. (You almost got me to say where I was lol) Hopefully it doesnt get too packed out, I only fish a few areas b/c I go out mostly to relax, I dont even really care if I catch fish, just getting away from the house is nice, especially since I hadn't been out of the house for the past 4 days (sick with temp between 100-103) but was awesome to finally catch something.
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: daver on March 02, 2008, 11:07:47 PM
nice fish dude, but i have to shake my head when someone says they cant give up their secret spot. its just fricken fishing man.
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: THE_ROE_SLINGER on March 02, 2008, 11:57:53 PM
Congrats on your first hatch! That fish has one thick tail base!
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: coho_killer on March 03, 2008, 12:50:57 AM
nice fish dude, but i have to shake my head when someone says they cant give up their secret spot. its just fricken fishing man.
to you it's just fishing think about it if everyone posted on here and told others where they were catching fish it would be a gong show most of the lower river already is! Go fishing find your own holes and be happy when you find them!  ;)

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Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: kingpin on March 03, 2008, 01:03:55 AM
oh i wasnt on the dike. i walked right past you without you even noticing.
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: WT on March 03, 2008, 09:45:30 AM

nice fish!
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: fyrslyer on March 03, 2008, 10:26:49 AM
nice fish dude, but i have to shake my head when someone says they cant give up their secret spot. its just fricken fishing man.

Time for someone to put a little time in on the river themselves searching a good hole or fishing spot instead of getting itrratated when someone doesnt tell you where they caught a fish, like it used to be before the days of fishing forums on the internet
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Rodney on March 03, 2008, 12:58:32 PM
A very nice clean fish Every Day. I envy. ;D

nice fish dude, but i have to shake my head when someone says they cant give up their secret spot. its just fricken fishing man.

Time for someone to put a little time in on the river themselves searching a good hole or fishing spot instead of getting itrratated when someone doesnt tell you where they caught a fish, like it used to be before the days of fishing forums on the internet

Keep in mind that there are anglers of all skill levels out there, from extremely experienced to those who are just starting out. This is always represented by the difference in opinion on the discussion forums. To some, a spot is simply a spot as they do not necessarily place fishing as an important activity in their lives as others may do. They go out with less expectations and are just glad to be outside. To some, fishing means catching so their expectation during a trip is much higher, and will guard their spots to maintain their success. Also to some, they want to catch fish, but enjoy the challenge aspect more so believe you are only fishing properly if you guide yourself to the fish. There isn't a good or bad way, they are simply different stages that most anglers go through. There is nothing wrong with letting others know about how you think fishing should be, please just do so in a constructive approach and respectful manner, otherwise it keeps the group divided and nothing good comes out from it.
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: daver on March 03, 2008, 05:17:32 PM
fair enough, i think it is sad that people feel they have to keep secrets, everybody has received tips and hints from other people, i just have to laugh when people feel they have to guard "their" spot.  i love fishing like the rest, maybe its just maturity, and i am sure things will change as people get older. peace
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: bederko on March 03, 2008, 06:54:38 PM
Way to go. That is a super nice fish for your first hatchery ever. What a great way to recover from the flu! ;)
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Rodney on March 03, 2008, 06:59:44 PM
maybe its just maturity, and i am sure things will change as people get older.

To some degree, maturity/age plays a role in this. There are retired anglers who have caught enough fish and do not really care about disclosing their spots and techniques, while there are also some intense retired anglers who guard their knowledge tightly. When it comes to the fishing location, it has more to do with respect. For example, knowing that Every Day has worked hard to finally catch a fish (based on his previous posts about his unsuccessful trips), I would not ask where he was fishing both publicly and privately. Nor do I expect him to tell because why give up something he has worked so hard for to those who he doesn't even know personally? What may not be important to you, is quite the opposite to some others.

When it comes to fishing techniques, you will find that most participants on discussion forums do not have a problem with sharing such information.
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Britguy on March 03, 2008, 07:16:10 PM
Nice fish man :D
nothing wrong with keeping your spot to your self

This is Every Days post lets just celebrate with him on his first steelie ;D
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Sterling C on March 03, 2008, 09:15:38 PM
fair enough, i think it is sad that people feel they have to keep secrets, everybody has received tips and hints from other people, i just have to laugh when people feel they have to guard "their" spot.  i love fishing like the rest, maybe its just maturity, and i am sure things will change as people get older. peace

A big part of steelhead fishing is knowing locations. Knowing what types of water will hold fish in certain conditions. The old adage is that if you see a fish caught somewhere, chances are that more fish will hold there in similar conditions. So for someone who is relatively new, they might not know too many types of areas that will hold fish and will be inclined to return to where they have had previous success. I doubt they would want to have hoards of other people pounding one of the few spots they can confidently fish.
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Every Day on March 03, 2008, 10:30:18 PM
Yea you guys misunderstood. The whole point that I don't want to say where I was is because as soon as someone finds out a fish was caught (especially on a popular internet site) it seems other anglers are like a bunch of vultures, they all move in in swarms. Im pretty sure the other 4 guys that fish there regularally with me would not appreciate it getting crowded and one other thing. I didn't disclose because I love being by myself, I go out to relax. Normally when other people move in I move somewhere else because to me I don't care if I catch fish it's just being out is why I do it. Hopefully you guys will understand now ^^.
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: summersteel on March 03, 2008, 11:10:04 PM
i totally agree with you everyday, there's nothing wrong with keeping your spot to yourself. There are no secret spots on the Vedder as far as places to fish, but, there are secret spots where we find the fish have been holding recently. Hardly anyone has been fishing at the crossing bridge, but if I posted a picture of a 15lb doe with the bridge in the background there would be a crowd there tomorrow. I enjoyed the story and your enthusiasm, get some more now!
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Every Day on March 03, 2008, 11:29:47 PM
That's exactly my point, recongnizable land/water/landmarks in a photo are not a good thing and then if you tell where you caught the fish, since I havnt heard of very many recently, that place would be swarmed out the very next day, and thanks for the encouragment, I keep going out every possible chance I get (even though that meant going out in the pouring rain today to get skunked and watch them jump in front of me).
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: daver on March 04, 2008, 12:11:52 AM
 my opinion has nothing to do with everyday himself, its just the whole idea of keeping secrets, if someone doesnt want to disclose info, thats there own perogative but i have to laugh when people make a point of saying that they have a "secret" spot. the vedder is a large river and the chances of fish being in the same spot  as the last time one was caught is the same as anywhere  else in the river. lets all drop this bs and get to talking steelies....
hey everyday, where did you catch your fish....haha
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: testo84 on March 04, 2008, 01:10:46 PM
Yea you guys misunderstood. The whole point that I don't want to say where I was is because as soon as someone finds out a fish was caught (especially on a popular internet site) it seems other anglers are like a bunch of vultures, they all move in in swarms. Im pretty sure the other 4 guys that fish there regularally with me would not appreciate it getting crowded and one other thing. I didn't disclose because I love being by myself, I go out to relax. Normally when other people move in I move somewhere else because to me I don't care if I catch fish it's just being out is why I do it. Hopefully you guys will understand now ^^.

exactly

dont bother giving spot just coz you wanna be alone and relax which is the essence of fishing !

great report and nice fish

young but mature way too goo
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: THE_ROE_SLINGER on March 04, 2008, 01:21:52 PM
I agree with testo ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: firstlight on March 04, 2008, 05:41:33 PM
That is a beauty allright. :o
Way to go. ;D
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Britguy on March 04, 2008, 06:11:14 PM
well i caught a fish today on the Vedder but for the life of me i cant find those gps coordinates i wrote down
so sorry i cant post the exact location :-\
just teasing ;)

Chill everyone its just fishing

I think we have hijacked Every Days thread enough now
well at least you are getting good publisity Every Day :D

Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Every Day on March 04, 2008, 08:58:08 PM
Yea it's all good, I enjoy reading every one's opinions and I'll take all the advice I can get (except for the advice about givin up my areas I like to fish) congrats on you're fish Britguy I'll have to read your post.
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Britguy on March 04, 2008, 09:48:21 PM
Thanks Every Day
maybe see you on the water sometime 8)
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Steelhawk on March 04, 2008, 10:41:38 PM
The seasoned rods will tell you that in a day they may bomb hundreds of casts to very tempting waters, only to result in one or two hook ups, often skunked. That is why we don't see Chris and his fish photo every day.  ;D There is no one spot which stays hot all the time. The Canal section was great when the water was really low and fish were bottled up there, but when the water rises, there are other better spots to fish then the lower big runs.

There are not many secret spots in lower river, because most runs are very accessible to the throngs of fishermen. That is why every body tries to beat every one to the spot by being there at first light. The mid and upper sections have more so called 'secret' spots. Not truly all that secret, just fewer people know how to access them. Some of these hot spots are resting pockets among fast waters and they can be a small spot. You can hook a steelie holding there usually within 3 casts. So when some one fishes it right before you, you have lost your chance to a fish holding there. You cannot say the same in some of the lower river runs. They are either too large, too long, or fish are more likely to be off bite due to too many things thrown at them and they can be more selective. How often we see a guy pick up a fish right after other people just fish the area? Too often.

This makes it not so big a deal to reveal where you hook a fish in the lower run. Another thing is that the lower runs may turn hot one day and dead cold the next. It all depends on where the main push of fish overnight happen to sit in the morning. So one morning, Lickman can yield 10 fish, and cold the next, while Train Bridge for example can turn on hot because the fish happen to stop there in stead of Lickman or other runs. Ultimately, steelheading is about luck on any given day, although skill and adapting to changing river conditon can turn luck into your favour often. My 2 cents on the subject.
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: blaydRnr on March 05, 2008, 11:59:37 AM
The seasoned rods will tell you that in a day they may bomb hundreds of casts to very tempting waters, only to result in one or two hook ups, often skunked. That is why we don't see Chris and his fish photo every day.  ;D There is no one spot which stays hot all the time. The Canal section was great when the water was really low and fish were bottled up there, but when the water rises, there are other better spots to fish then the lower big runs.

There are not many secret spots in lower river, because most runs are very accessible to the throngs of fishermen. That is why every body tries to beat every one to the spot by being there at first light. The mid and upper sections have more so called 'secret' spots. Not truly all that secret, just fewer people know how to access them. Some of these hot spots are resting pockets among fast waters and they can be a small spot. You can hook a steelie holding there usually within 3 casts. So when some one fishes it right before you, you have lost your chance to a fish holding there. You cannot say the same in some of the lower river runs. They are either too large, too long, or fish are more likely to be off bite due to too many things thrown at them and they can be more selective. How often we see a guy pick up a fish right after other people just fish the area? Too often.

This makes it not so big a deal to reveal where you hook a fish in the lower run. Another thing is that the lower runs may turn hot one day and dead cold the next. It all depends on where the main push of fish overnight happen to sit in the morning. So one morning, Lickman can yield 10 fish, and cold the next, while Train Bridge for example can turn on hot because the fish happen to stop there in stead of Lickman or other runs. Ultimately, steelheading is about luck on any given day, although skill and adapting to changing river conditon can turn luck into your favour often. My 2 cents on the subject.

well put.  that's probably the wisest thing that's been said....i've been out 16 times since january and hit dozens of 'secret hot spots', and all i've got to show for is one wild hen.  i've put in more hours of bushwhacking than fishing, but have yet to land my first hatch.
timing and luck is everything, but you have to put in the effort to be rewarded.  if you allow yourself to get frustrated, you might as well hang up your gear and wait for the springs to arrive.
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Every Day on March 05, 2008, 03:57:49 PM
Hot spots going cold from one day to the next are part of Steelhead fishing and always will be. I even realize this and I'm quite new to the sport. You can't let something like that stop you though. When I was fishing at Lickman for 2 hours Sunday and realized it was dead. I walked up above the bridge and hit a fish 2nd cast. It's all just luck, you need to find where other people have not been so far that day. I just keep walking and keep my hopes up, and for once, it payed off. Hopefully I only get better and, Im assuming the better you get, the more you'll get hooked on the sport. (And belive me, I've had plenty of "skunked" days where a guy walks in right where I was fishing and lands one the next cast... kinda suck sometimes lol)
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: mmmroe on March 05, 2008, 03:58:55 PM
fair enough, i think it is sad that people feel they have to keep secrets, everybody has received tips and hints from other people, i just have to laugh when people feel they have to guard "their" spot.  i love fishing like the rest, maybe its just maturity, and i am sure things will change as people get older. peace
LOL.....I can point you to a spot..... go to any water that is about 6 inches deep with lots of twigs and u'll slay them......LOL......sorry j/j I kinda find that funny.....People can share whatever info they want........We hit the vedder a few times ...we did good each time out....The fish are everywhere! Just learn how to read water and put in your time.... Nice fish everyday.....congrats.....
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: BigFisher on March 05, 2008, 09:56:10 PM
Hey, Maybe some of my luck rubbed off on you after you passed me. ;) Nice first steely now your hooked! I bet you were still shaking with adrenline while walking back home with that baby in your hand.  ;D
Title: Re: Steely on March 2nd (Vedder River with Pics)
Post by: Every Day on March 05, 2008, 10:13:19 PM
Well I wasn't quite as excitied as I thought I would be... I was only shaking when I was fighting it then it died off right after I marked my liscence. Haul out was a bugger... over a few creeks and like 15 mins walk, but worth it ;) (I would def wanna do it again). Where were you when I passed you?.... I seem to have passed quite a few people that day lol, guess b/c I walked almost from the train bridge up past the Vedder Crossing, there were lots of people out Sunday. Hopefully I can get out this Sunday again when I get back from Whistler  :). Good luck on the weekend guys, I'll check up 2 morrow to see if any were caught before I leave!