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Title: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: fishyfish on October 19, 2008, 12:37:28 PM
Saturday A.M. Squamish area rivers fishable but no fish.
Title: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: bkk on October 19, 2008, 02:49:05 PM
Chum should be closed ASAP in my opinion. Very few around for late October. Just had high water so they should of been pushing into the rivers big time but there just not there. If you want meat to kill, go to the Vedder and leave Squamish chum in the river to spawn where there needed.
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: patagonia on October 19, 2008, 05:18:50 PM
I agree... when we retain just because its our right under the limit it affects all of our futures on these rivers.... I live by the Seymour and although it allows for 1 hatchery coho I have never retained a fish there.... they will close these rivers entirely if we dont use some discretion ourselves sometimes!
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: hotrod on October 19, 2008, 06:00:21 PM
It's like a ghost town out there unless you know where to look!  I was quite disapponited with the lack of numbers..  It should be plugged full of fish right now and it's not!


   Hotrod
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: Britguy on October 19, 2008, 08:14:41 PM
well if there are not many Chum in the Squish but tons in the Fraser,  Stave and Ved then the spillage must still have an effect on returns
I say shut it down for now and let the straglers spawn in peace
If there is a late run it can allways be re-opened
just my 2 cents
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: Sinaran on October 19, 2008, 11:41:55 PM
well if there are not many Chum in the Squish but tons in the Fraser,  Stave and Ved then the spillage must still have an effect on returns
I say shut it down for now and let the straglers spawn in peace
If there is a late run it can allways be re-opened
just my 2 cents
can't agree more.   
i remember back in 06 there were tons of chums there, i would hook into over 10 fish in a single afternoon for 3 straight days.  then in 07 the returning number was down sharply, i couldn't hook into a single fish in two outings.  It seems like the same case this year....We definitely need to do our part to save it.   
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: Rodney on October 19, 2008, 11:48:59 PM
Chum should be closed ASAP in my opinion. Very few around for late October. Just had high water so they should of been pushing into the rivers big time but there just not there. If you want meat to kill, go to the Vedder and leave Squamish chum in the river to spawn where there needed.

Are the local SFAC and DFO having a discussion up there soon to get it closed? When can we expect a notice to be out? Hope to see it soon.
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: Fish Assassin on October 20, 2008, 12:01:31 AM
Really sad to see the decline of the chum population.
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: rhino on October 20, 2008, 12:17:57 AM
why does dfo need people to tell them this info before they act? shouldnt they be on top of this?is it not part of their job?
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: BwiBwi on October 20, 2008, 12:55:31 AM
They are keeping a tab on it.  Just giving it reasonable delay.  Once passed if condition doesn't improve it will be shutdown.
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: hickman on October 20, 2008, 09:26:53 AM
Just wanted to give my 2 cents as well...
I know that people have been catching cohos on the Squamish over the last days, especially on the far shore. I saw a few chum caught at Fisherman's Park on Saturday.
I did not catch anything except a nice dolly although I spent 5 hours at various spots.
Talked again to a bunch of people along the river(s) - Squish, Cheak, Mamquam. Still not very many chum, especially compared to 2006 where it was impossible not to catch a chum.
DFO is apparently thinking about closure again on the chum which is the right thing to do at this point.  Someone I know knows someone kinda rumour... don't take my word for it.
I decided to quit for now unless they come in numbers. I agree with what has been said by several guys in this thread. Apparently, there are "meat-fishing rivers" - the Squish system is not one of them (anymore).
I tried my favorite spot on the Cheak again yesterday with probably 10 other guys. There were fish around but I saw only one chum caught in 2 hours.
I think, I will enjoy the chum in the little creek by our house watching them up closewhen they come up and spawn....

Hickman
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: fengyuanfei on October 20, 2008, 11:07:09 AM
fishermen stop whining and unite against :-X CN
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: fengyuanfei on October 20, 2008, 01:01:47 PM
Hey guys: I am glad to hear the DFO are monitoring the situation and will access conditions. IF they close the system, there is not much chance they will reopen. They closed the season last year and then the late run came in and there were a lot chum around. We had the second biggest pink return in years in the Squamish system last year and they also closed that fishery. I agree, if returns are down, action must be taken. But let us let the DFO do their job.

I fished the Squamish last year and this year at the mouth of the Mamquam. Usually a hot spot. Not this year. The fish are comming up the far side and we can not get to them. The seals are feeding well and the guys in boats are doing well. If you fish from shore, it is tough to get to the fish in a lot of zones that used to be very hot. Rivers change.

Hickman:

Where are you from? What creek are you talking about? I have one in my back yard as well.
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: Xgolfman on October 20, 2008, 04:03:04 PM
Doesn't help that the water is still really dirty and there are a sheeit load of seals as well..I agree with all others..time to shut her down like she deserves...
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: dereke on October 20, 2008, 06:28:24 PM
Fished a spot both days of the weekend and I will say yesterday afternoon there was a ton of fish move into the run we were fishing which was a step in the right direction but might be to little too late. :'( The mouth of the mamquam has changed since 2006 forcing fish to the outside, that being said I fished the Mamquam in clear conditions in the morning yesterday and there were not alot of fish moving up. Not sure if the fish find a spot to difficult to get into whether they would just shift and go somewhere else (upriver)? Again the run we were at yesterday we were also at Saturday and it was like night and day with the amount of fish that had moved in. All really fresh, hope to hell they are just late but I kind of doubt it.  :'( :'(

Cheers
Derek
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: hickman on October 21, 2008, 09:04:02 AM
@ fengyuanfei,
I am in Valleycliffe close to Stawamus Creek. Usually chum and a few coho in November & December in that little Creek, also some in the river.
hickman
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: milo on October 21, 2008, 02:32:01 PM
Thanks, Dereke.
My two buddies and I are going to hit a couple of different spots upstream next Saturday if water levels cooperate and DFO doesn't close the river by then.

I have notes for both spots from previous years and will be making a comparison. 

I agree with all those endorsing a closure if the situation is that bad.

On a more positive note, it seems it is business as usual regarding chum runs in other systems.
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: fishyfish on October 22, 2008, 07:09:47 PM
Conserve, Conserve, conserve. For what so another big company can wipe out the river with little repercussion. That river should be chalk full of smolts paid for by CN.  Just my old bitter opinion. As phil Collins sang. . .. Too many people making too many problems and not enough fish to go around. Or something like that.
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: dereke on October 22, 2008, 09:55:00 PM
  The plight of the Squamish chums has nothing to do with CN. Chum were nowhere near the river when the spill happened. While CN should pay more for what they did, I agree with that, this is another issue. Like the Phil Collins quote though  ;).

Cheers
Derek
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: kellya on October 22, 2008, 10:21:12 PM
I forget if chum are a 3 or 4 year cycle but wasnt there the huge squamish floods in 2004 or 2005?
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: Rodney on October 22, 2008, 10:38:06 PM
In case some of you have missed it, bkk has answered a lot of questions people have regarding Squamish runs in this post:

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=18755.msg178677#msg178677
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: hickman on October 23, 2008, 10:29:11 AM
The big flood was in fall 2003....yes.
Thanks Rodney and BKK for the thread.
I might take a walk along the river today and try my luck for an hour...
Hick
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: hotrod on October 23, 2008, 09:45:45 PM
The squish is devoid any number of fish.  It's a ghost town..   It's so weird to see nothing in there right now when you've been used to it being chalked full this time of year.

   Hotrod
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: dereke on October 23, 2008, 10:17:29 PM
 Ya havent been down since the weekend......Might have been just a big school that we were lucky enough to be there while they moved through, like I said too little to late.......again :'( :'( :'(. @ Hickman PM sent.
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: milo on October 24, 2008, 08:00:30 PM
I'll head out to the Squamish with a couple of friends to check out some old haunts up the river...not hoping for much, but it will be a nice change from the LML.
I'll report tomorrow evening upon our return, so you will have a pretty good idea what it is like.
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: dereke on October 25, 2008, 09:46:28 AM
 Heading out now as well.......
Title: Re: Squamish River, October 18th 2008
Post by: pinkwool on October 25, 2008, 09:15:23 PM
Lots of fresh chum rising in Check, but no bites.