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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Steelhawk on November 14, 2008, 06:29:25 PM
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This thread was splitted from this fishing report (http://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=19260.0).
Isn't 13" a bit small for a sea-run cutty? What is the average size for sea-run cutties? Are there resident cutties in the Stave?
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I caught one about 2lbs a few years ago on the stave. It measured a hair under 18 inches.
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Anadromous cutts don't always go to sea, but they more often move from system to system, in search for food...
There are a variety of markings, colors on fish can vary quite a bit... I've caught yellow bellies, chromers, crazy blue backs with peach coloured cheeks, really runs the gammut.
These are by far my favourite fish... Congrats on your first coastal cutty!
Cheers,
Nicole
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Anadromous cutts don't always go to sea, but they more often move from system to system, in search for food...
There are a variety of markings, colors on fish can vary quite a bit... I've caught yellow bellies, chromers, crazy blue backs with peach coloured cheeks, really runs the gammut.
These are by far my favourite fish... Congrats on your first coastal cutty!
Cheers,
Nicole
My favorite as well ;)
I have caught lots of cutthroat while salmon fishing especially coho fishing. I always tell myself to bring along a 5wt but never do and than what do you know I hook a cutthroat on my 7wt. Sure I still love bringing them in and admiring their beauty but it would be more fun on the 5wt. I would never bring less than a 5wt as you never know when a coho picks up what you have out there.
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Isn't 13" a bit small for a sea-run cutty? What is the average size for sea-run cutties? Are there resident cutties in the Stave?
13" is quite average for a sea run cut, althought they can get much larger.
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i've been catching searun cutties for the little campbell river river hatchery. large wild females - getting most of my fish on fairly large rolled muddlers white and coastal deer oho hair... largest one was about 19 inches and i thought it was a coho jack.
I fish down there all the time and have released to many to count this year. All between 14-16 inches. Released a nice 20 inch rainbow resident. It scared the crap out of me as I was getting small ones then this guy swooped in. All the fish were on small coho streamers and egg patterns. Lots of fun and good year round :)
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ok so how can you tell if its a searun cutty and whether its a resident cutty???
because on Monday i hit a load of them in a nice quiet spot biggest being 22" ;D even got one Dolly around 14-15" lots of cookie cutter sized cutties though(10-14")
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My favorite as well ;)
I have caught lots of cutthroat while salmon fishing especially coho fishing. I always tell myself to bring along a 5wt but never do and than what do you know I hook a cutthroat on my 7wt. Sure I still love bringing them in and admiring their beauty but it would be more fun on the 5wt. I would never bring less than a 5wt as you never know when a coho picks up what you have out there.
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Same goes here I caught this one on my 7 weight.
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Anadromous cutts don't always go to sea, but they more often move from system to system,
If they do not go to sea they are not anadromous. They are just cutts.
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Is the Stave any good cutties in late December?
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Is the Stave any good cutties in late December?
Late December used to de good. Afted the salmon are all gone and the cutts are nice and fat.
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Is the Stave any good cutties in late December?
Late December used to de good. Afted the salmon are all gone and the cutts are nice and fat.
Thanks fish321, hopefully it will still be good.
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The Harrison is much better for cutthroat than the Stave. Also more shore access.
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Where can I fish with a fly rod on the Harrison from shore. On occasion I have seen a few guys just upstream of the highway bridge.
Are there any other locations that can be accessed without a boat? I used to go to the Stave in the late season but now I have to wear a hard hat
to avoid being brained by a bouncing betty.
Thanks
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Where can I fish with a fly rod on the Harrison from shore. On occasion I have seen a few guys just upstream of the highway bridge.
Are there any other locations that can be accessed without a boat? I used to go to the Stave in the late season but now I have to wear a hard hat
to avoid being brained by a bouncing betty.
Thanks
Lots of places on the Harrison by foot. If I told you some of the best spots I have found I would e lynched by people ;)
Get out and explore it. Its an amazing river and worth the time to explore. I would bring flesh flies, and egg patterns. Also some muddlers and attractor patterns.
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If they do not go to sea they are not anadromous. They are just cutts.
I'm just repeating what I read from some DFO site of releases ... Of course I can't find where I read this right now, I've been up since 5 and I'm a bit delerious ;)
Cheers,
Nicole
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Anadromous cutts don't always go to sea, but they more often move from system to system,
If they do not go to sea they are not anadromous. They are just cutts.
technically that's correct. However in the Fraser Valley, particularly above Mission the % of cutts that actually go to the Fraser estuary is well below 50%. I also don't think you can id if a fish has spent some time feeding in the chuck without a scale reading.
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the SRCs found in any fraser trib could be either fluvial(moves from large rivers ie. fraser, columbia into small tributaries and back) or true anadromous(ocean to fresh water tribs.) or resident.if you come across them in a lake they are known as adfluvial. i'm not that educated re. scale count other than SRCs have 150-180 scales along their lat. line whaereas steelhead have under 150 scales.i wasn't aware that true SRCs have a different lat line scale count from say a resident or adfluvial.are there any graduate biologist out there that can set us straight?i'm a little rusty as uni was twenty something years ago...
ssabnik :)
p.s. my info comes from:F.Fishing Coastal Cuthroat Trout,Flies, Techniques and Conservation
author: Les Johnson
Frank Amato Publications Inc.
just found this book a couple of days ago. Hope its an xmas present for me this year
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I was walking around the Stave yesterday killing some time and came across a some spawming Coho.what was really cool was watching the rather large Cutthroat try to sneak up and scoop eggs but everytime the cuttie got close the Coho male would chase it around the holding water like a heat seeking missle.It was really cool to watch but too bad I had neither the flyrod or the video camera.
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Hey Guys,
I found the link I was talking about, where it mentions anadromous cutty stocking:
http://www.gofishbc.com/r2.htm
Cheers,
Nicole
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Coastal cutthroat trout hatchery productions and stockings in the Fraser Valley are carried out at the Fraser Valley Trout Hatchery in Abbotsford, which is operated by the Freshwater Fisheries Society of BC. Here is a ten minute video that sums up this operation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QkOu15rjXM
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ssab nik: scale counts and readings are not the same thing.
A reading exams the rings on the scale which are much like the rings on a tree. Ocean residence is usually indicated by large ring spacings (growth) and readings of Fraser system cutts indicate most fish above Mission don't go to sea
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Nicole,
That's a good book. Les works down at the Orvis shop in Bellevue Washington. Another well known beach angler is Les's friend Leland Miyawaki, also at the Orvis shop. Great guys to talk to about cutthroat! Leland has a pretty famous beach / cutty fly that's well known in those parts.
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Here's a cutty video I found awhile back, right click to download it:
Cutties feeding on coho spawn:
www.nicolegoodman.com/videos/cohospawning.mpeg (http://www.nicolegoodman.com/videos/cohospawning.mpeg)
Cheers,
Nicole
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that's a great clip, short and sweet... i'm loving all the fishing clips you all have. keep em coming.. take it easy
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That clip is pretty cool. Gutsy little buggers arent they :)
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ssab nik: scale counts and readings are not the same thing.
A reading exams the rings on the scale which are much like the rings on a tree. Ocean residence is usually indicated by large ring spacings (growth) and readings of Fraser system cutts indicate most fish above Mission don't go to sea
Ralph, are you aware of studies available online detailing scale sampling of Fraser cutts?