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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: chris gadsden on June 26, 2010, 06:25:22 PM
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Are you going to cut back in spending on non essentials because of the HST that is now days ahead?
I am going to cut back starting with my usual coffee at Tims, dropping back from a large to a medium, in a reusable cup too. Also less trips to Cookies and other restaurant food. I think I will cancel our telephone and just use out Cell phones.
I imagine AF will increase his spending to make up for my cutbacks. ;D
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Im planning to vote out Gordie and the Liberals in the next election. We all will have to cut back our spending because of this nasty new tax increase.
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I imagine AF will increase his spending to make up for my cutbacks. ;D
No problem Chris...... Just let me know how much I've got to spend. ;D
You know it hurts me to see how the HST is devastating folks like you.......
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Im planning to vote out Gordie and the Liberals in the next election. We all will have to cut back our spending because of this nasty new tax increase.
Uncle Gordie doesn't care...he already knows he's done next election
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No problem Chris...... Just let me know how much I've got to spend. ;D
You know it hurts me to see how the HST is devastating folks like you.......
Not devastating but it just the way it was done. I belive you would have read that I was on a government Riding Association for 8 years, low level, volunteer but the way I saw things handled at times well, ------- I will leave it at that. :o ::)
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Uncle Gordie doesn't care...he already knows he's done next election
Yes you are so right IvAn and it is scary, as of interest from this mostly fish related forum our environment, fish and wildlife will unfortunately be paying the price, worse than every before. These topic as regular readers of this board know the shortfalls that have been discussed in depth by many knowledgeable people.
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Not devastating but it just the way it was done. I belive you would have read that I was on a government Riding Association for 8 years, low level, volunteer but the way I saw things handled at times well, ------- I will leave it at that. :o ::)
I've never argued in favor of the Liberals or how they have handled the HST. All I've argued about is the merits of the HST over the PST.
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When the GST (compliments of Brian Bulroney) was implemented I cut back on the spending for a year..... then I resume back to my former self.
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When the GST (compliments of Brian Bulroney) was implemented I cut back on the spending for a year..... then I resume back to my former self.
You cheer for the Leafs too then weaken and go back to the Canucks. ;D ;D ;D
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You cheer for the Leafs too then weaken and go back to the Canucks. ;D ;D ;D
I regained my sanity. ;D
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If you get a chance, read the editorial page in the Province for Sunday.
WARNING - if you're easily offended by Campbullcrap, this may induce nausea or a spinning like feeling.
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I won't be cutting back at all. There are very few things in my day to day spending that will be changed by the HST. There's not a huge difference between what I presently pay GST and PST on when compared to what I would pay HST on.
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Don't forget the Carbon Tax increase (July 1st), too... 'Cuz Gordy cares about the environment...
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It won't really affect our family much at all. We very rarely eat out now, because even without PST its still freaking expensive for 6 people. I may think twice about popping by Timmies at first, but after awhile it just becomes normal.
Clothes for the kids will be a bit pricier, but I try to keep an eye on the flyers for good sales anyways, cuz it really pains my little dutch heart to pay full price for anything. ;D
Apparently there will be HST on certain school supplies, but we use very little of that since we started homeschooling all four kids 3 years ago.
Pop is a once a week treat for my kids, so no worries there really. Chips we do eat more often, so I may buy a couple bags less a week, but that's minor.
If I didn't have kids I would def get rid of the home phone. They are old enough to be home on their own during the day, but I would not be comfortable leaving them home alone without a phone.
And I cut everyone's hair around here, even trim my own sometimes, or get one of the girls to do it for me.
So no, no plans to cut back really, since we don't spend a lot of money on 'extras'
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Being that we have already cut our spending as much as we can its not possible to cut back further. HST wont affect people as much as all the hype leads you to believe.
The HST coverage sure takes away from more important issues such as health care, and education.
Examples: Schools are being shutdown again and to get an MRI done its a wait list of anywhere from 12 months - 24 months. IMO those issues are far more important.
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A friend of mine is getting his roof done because of some leaks. Extra $560 but I guess that is OK, revenue neutral. ::)
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I am frugal by nature, turning every dollar before spending it. With that said the only thing I would like to cut back is Gordon's head, right above the shoulder would be about right. :) Humour aside, I really hope the Liberals get a kick in the my friend for this in the coming election. But then again that might be worse as the NDP would be much of the same or worse, then what we have now.
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I am frugal by nature, turning every dollar before spending it. With that said the only thing I would like to cut back is Gordon's head, right above the shoulder would be about right. :) Humour aside, I really hope the Liberals get a kick in the *** for this in the coming election. But then again that might be worse as the NDP would be much of the same or worse, then what we have now.
A new party is arising as we speak. ;D ;D ;D
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Hes a nasty little fella that convicted drunk driver Gordie. This tax is going to hurt alot of people,we will have to eat out alot less. Cut back to half the amount we dine out.Whats happening with the petition that was circulating around the province? Im currently working outside of the province.I did get to sign the petition when it was going around.
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Whats happening with the petition that was circulating around the province?
That's what I wonder too. Last thing I heard it was a roaring success, collecting the required signatures. Since then deafening silence. Why is the tax going ahead as planed if the anti petition was a success?
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I always vote Liberal but if Gordie is the leader I wont vote Liberal. I would NEVER vote for Carole James or her party so next election my vote goes to the Conservative Party. You might just see some of the unhappy Liberal MLA's moving to that party as well.
I am not voting Conservatives because of the HST though. Its for more serious matters than that.
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--a little less catch and release... need a few to eat, but only from waters that support healthey populations.
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A new party is arising as we speak. ;D ;D ;D
Socreds making a comeback with Rita Johnson ? ;D
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Socreds making a comeback with Rita Johnson ? ;D
More details coming, stay tuned. ;D ;D
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The Zalm is running for President......? ;D
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YES--In the beginning I will be the same as a lot of people and resume my normal spending once I get used to being shafted once again. Actually we do not really have a choice do we. I still and always will refuse to pay tips at a restaurant on the tax charged on my bill. Gordon must feel very proud that once again, he sinks lower than most of the worst leaders that the people in B.C. have been shall we say "LEAD" by. Just my "2" cents worth that really does not mean a "DARN" thing.
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YES--In the beginning I will be the same as a lot of people and resume my normal spending once I get used to being shafted once again. Actually we do not really have a choice do we. I still and always will refuse to pay tips at a restaurant on the tax charged on my bill. Gordon must feel very proud that once again, he sinks lower than most of the worst leaders that the people in B.C. have been shall we say "LEAD" by. Just my "2" cents worth that really does not mean a "DARN" thing.
HUH? Have you done any research on HST? Its not a new thing, and its not something Gordy made up on his own. 130 countries throughout the wold use an HST type system.
Read about it here. Its as unbiased as it gets on this site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonized_Sales_Tax
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Wikipedia is not unbiased...
Nothing is unbiased on the internet, and in general anywhere. Everyone writing something has an opinion.
The only thing with Wikipedia is that every article written is "peer reviewed." You could get an article on there if it is seen as good enough.
I don't like the HST at all... I practically live off fast food in university ;D
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Wikipedia is not unbiased...
Nothing is unbiased on the internet, and in general anywhere. Everyone writing something has an opinion.
The only thing with Wikipedia is that every article written is "peer reviewed." You could get an article on there if it is seen as good enough.
I don't like the HST at all... I practically live off fast food in university ;D
Well its not written by the Liberal government. Its as unbiased as you can find anyways.
Stop living off fast food. You can buy your groceries and eat healthy for cheaper than what you can buying crap.
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A new party is arising as we speak. ;D ;D ;D
What party? PC? Who is going to head it? I will join membership.
Won't need to cut back on eating out - you can always chose the food court meals, less $ and no tips. ;D
I can forsee a lot of middle-class oriented family restaurants will be toasted.
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I can forsee a lot of middle-class oriented family restaurants will be toasted.
Not that I'm pro HST - but I'm old enough to remember hearing the same thing when the GST was to be introduced many moons ago. And I was working as a server then. Didn't like the initial results - but last time I checked, there seems to be more 'middle-class oriented family restaurants' now than before.
Any hew - in a few years - Gordo will be out (collecting multiple golden pensions >:( ), someone else will be in, and we'll all be griping of a different problem/concern regaridn the new leader of whatever party is in. We is a fickle bunch. :D
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Read about it here. Its as unbiased as it gets on this site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonized_Sales_Tax
Wikipedia unbiased? You are aware, I hope, that anybody can write on Wikipedia, you, me and everyone else can write about whatever dam well pleases us. Best of all you do not have to back it up with facts, just a few links to sources that suit the writers agenda will do fine. I haven't read much on Wikipedia other than the biography of Napoleon and Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany. Both biographies are flawed beyond believe to suit the writers political agenda.
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Wikipedia unbiased? You are aware, I hope, that anybody can write on Wikipedia, you, me and everyone else can write about whatever dam well pleases us. Best of all you do not have to back it up with facts, just a few links to sources that suit the writers agenda will do fine. I haven't read much on Wikipedia other than the biography of Napoleon and Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany. Both biographies are flawed beyond believe to suit the writers political agenda.
Reminds me of a certain anti-HST politician.... ;D
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Wikipedia unbiased? You are aware, I hope, that anybody can write on Wikipedia, you, me and everyone else can write about whatever dam well pleases us. Best of all you do not have to back it up with facts, just a few links to sources that suit the writers agenda will do fine. I haven't read much on Wikipedia other than the biography of Napoleon and Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany. Both biographies are flawed beyond believe to suit the writers political agenda.
I am aware of that but if you google up the facts presented on HST from wikipedia you will see its factual.
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For onething that HST's going to cost me more is on my 10 yrs old kid's clothing. (she's 155cm, 50kg and wears a size 8 ladies' shoe)
With PST anything that's going to be worn by her can be pst free. But with HST because her size none of her clothing/shoes are in the kids category and I'll be paying 7% more on tax.
>:(
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Not that I'm pro HST - but I'm old enough to remember hearing the same thing when the GST was to be introduced many moons ago. And I was working as a server then. Didn't like the initial results - but last time I checked, there seems to be more 'middle-class oriented family restaurants' now than before.
Any hew - in a few years - Gordo will be out (collecting multiple golden pensions >:( ), someone else will be in, and we'll all be griping of a different problem/concern regaridn the new leader of whatever party is in. We is a fickle bunch. :D
GST is only 5%. If people were crying foul about it back then, 7% more will be quite a hit to many people's entertainment budget. Imagine a family of 4 to 6 eating out, and 7% more is quite a bit of money. So to eat out in places with tips up to 15%, we will be paying 15%+12% on our meal value. Just thinking about all these extra costs before I even take a bite hurts the appetite. ;D :(
Stay home or food court. That is the way to go ;D
Perhaps the barter system will thrive. I will take any newbie out fishing if he can cut my lawn or clean my carpet... ;D
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The HST is here and it will stay. In 6 months time people will be used to paying it, and it will be a non issue after the next election. Just like the GST was. People will look back and wonder what all the hype was about. This now puts BC businesses on a more even footing with Alberta and Ontario.
Those with the lowest income will become dependent on the hst rebate just like they look forward to the GST rebates. The rest will just forget about it. They will realize that a $50 meal in a restaurant is now $53 and accept it.
As for an alternative to the Liberals. I have not heard of any party saying they will repeal the hst if elected. It would be far too expensive.
Just one guys opinion.
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GST is only 5%. If people were crying foul about it back then, 7% more will be quite a hit to many people's entertainment budget.
You are correct - it is currently 5% - but when the GST was first introduced in the early 90's - it WAS 7%. Back then, an additional 7% was a hefty amount compared to today's dollar.
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--HST is great: business will prosper.. more jobs.. and because of greater revenue due to increased spending the provincial government, (by the end of summer I'm sure) will be able to lower their portion of the HST so we'll actually have a reduction in overall tax. Besides that...all that want to will be employed.
--Almost forgot.. all businesses will be passing on their savings to us.. especially the larger forest companies that have been begging for this for years.. these reduced costs will result in the reopening of the mills they shut down and as they will be running to capacity they won't be shipping any raw logs to other countries. Housing prices will drop due to the reduction in wood product costs.
--When I woke up this morning...I was no longer confused about what items will be taxed as their are no exemptions promised. Or maybe there are a few super secret exemptions that we may find out about later, due to the relentless search for the truth about the tax by the Fraser institute.
--Also great to here that because Washington is confused they will just collect taxes from Canadian buyers just in case we aren't really entitled to an exemption do to the HST being a Value Added Tax rather than a sales tax.
--I'm sure Canadian business will smarten up so when in doubt charge the tax but just don't pass it on to the governmemt.. oh that right a few major retail companies already tried this but it was all just a misunderstanding, nothing criminal.
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From the HST web site.
Now that the 700,000 plus signatures have been delivered to Elections BC, the FightHST Provincial Strategy Team is asking everyone to post comments on the website where we will keep an eye on the effects of the HST. Please click here and let us know what you intend to do in order to combat the effects of the HST and what changes you have noticed so far. http://fighthst.com/fighthst-provincial-strategy-team-would-like-to-discuss-your-hst-experiences-in-bc/
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Thanks for the link Chris. I have added my comments! ;D
I see my comments are gone.... maybe they didn't appreciate my point of view?! ???
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Thanks for the link Chris. I have added my comments! ;D
I see my comments are gone.... maybe they didn't appreciate my point of view?! ???
Beaks, :-[ what did you post as I will bring it up with Bill at our next meeting.
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No problem Chris, my comments didn't complement the other comments very well anyway.
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Love the comments. Those people sure have short memories. :-\
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No usually coffee stop at Tims today made my own. ;D