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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: HKSR on June 05, 2013, 11:09:49 AM
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Anybody have experience fishing for carp with hair rigs? Does anybody know where to buy baiting needles?
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You can just use the baiting needles that people use to thread pink worms, which are available at most tackle stores.
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/blog/2012/06/24/exploring-fishing-opportunities-in-the-okanagan/120624-16/
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I just use pliers to straighten a hook and use that as the needle.
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An unwanted bottom bouncer makes 3 needles about 3" long; clip the wire, smooth one end and bend a crook in it, then hone a point on the other end. The real ones with coloured plastic handles are harder to lose in the grass.
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If you're interested in modern carp rigs you can do no better than buying a subscription to the British "Angling Times" publication
http://www.greatmagazines.co.uk/fishing/angling-times.html
These guys are simply light years ahead of the rest of the world in Carp fishing methodology ........and by the way, be prepared to learn a whole new vocabulary....Stuff like zip rigging ....Boilies.....spodding......Bivvies......Wagglers......its a total education
I kid you not, these people have it down to a fine art :)
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Go to your nearest needle craft store and get a couple of crochet hooks, smallest ones you can. If you want to learn more about carp fishing try and get a subscription to "Carp world" magazine. Unfortunately just sold my carp fishing books that I bought over from England, but for some really good advice look on internet for anything Tim Paisley, Julian Cundiff, Terry Hearn, Lee Jackson and Rod Hutchinson. One book that although really out of date now would give you an insight into how it really all began and the evolution of the hair rig is "Carp Fever" by Kevin Maddocks, would be worth looking on amazon.
If you want any advise, and bear in mind I left England five years ago and gave up carp fishing about seven years prior to that, (got pissed off chasing five forties around a 140 acre lake), drop me an email at roboakley1811@gmail.com.
Now if some one could help me catch that elusive first salmon or steelhead on the fly that would be great :-)
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Whoa, awesome info guys! Thanks!
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This is how I did it: i bought from the dollar store a bunch of needles but the thicker ones a little bit, and with larger ears; then I took a file and cut off a little part from one side of the ear, the part toward the point, such you can put a looped thread in it and still has a little shoulder to pull the loop...you have to file around the cut to be sure it is smooth
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You cant chum so it is a little harder...you need to locate the places where the fish is going to be; best with a boat and a fishfinder, look up for holes...from the shore you have to work harder to find them
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Matt Hayes has posted excellent videos on youtube about carp fishing; hes a champ and an excellent teacher too;
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Anybody have experience fishing for carp with hair rigs? Does anybody know where to buy baiting needles?
I bought my in UK(ebay) fot a few $$$.
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I wonder how specific the no chumming law is in relation to using stringers of 3 or 4 baits on pva string, or a packbait moulded around sinker or hookbait as opposed to blatant groundbaiting? Even a few extra pieces of something doing some attracting or creating a cloud of flavour should have a quantitative effect, especially on the larger waters where the larger carp should be. The negative effects of chumming happen when so much food gets dumped in a body of water it turns to mash. In larger lakes here we bait with 6 or more pails of cooked groundbait at a time with no effect other than holding the carp for awhile. As they patrol along the shores of large lakes they'll keep returning to areas they've found food in before. If things work out I could be in BC doing some carp stalking in the river, but likely no fishing yet within a week if my surgeon authorizes my physio there.
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Couldn't find baiting needles at my local tackle store, so I ordered a set from UK Ebay lol.
So in regards to boilies, if they float, is it ok to put split shots on the line to keep it down? Will the extra tension spook the carp?
I've read that 1" to 2" off the bottom is fine, but probably not beneficial to be more than 2" off the ground?
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Re:pop-ups, you can use shot to pin a rig down but what makes a difference (imo) is if you make your rigs out of coated braid scrape the last inch or two of coating off before your hook so it's easier to suck up. If you use mono try to have your rig a couple pounds breaking strain lighter than your mainline and either use lead clips if using a bolt rig or use a sliding sinker rig for safety. If I was going to pin one like that (not something I usually bother with), I'd put the shot just short of the stripped part. Something I like to do is the snowman rig where a normal boilie has a smaller pop-up boilie on top. It makes the bait just a bit more noticable and more bouyant. Our Canadian carp are usually pretty naive and not too rig shy.