Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: fishtruck on October 20, 2013, 08:39:03 PM
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Trying to figure out what would be a good setup for coho. Want to spend around $150. Am looking at the Shimano 8'6" Clarus or a similar priced Berkeley or even something from Cabela's. Reel I'm looking at is the Pfleuger president or Lews speed spin. I have talked to the staff at local tackle stores and will buy locally if I can. However, if the cost is substantially higher I'll be forced to buy either on-line or form the states. What kind of setup do you have and why? Any and all insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you
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Love my 6-12 lb rated Claris Spinning rod . Fantastic coho rod as long as you don't get into the chum
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for lure tossing I just use a 7' medium trout rod, same rod I use for pinks. I think mine cost around $40 and came with the reel. no need to go expensive unless you really want to. With your budget there is a lot of options
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Shimano Clarus 8'6" CSS86M2B and Sahara 3000FE.
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for lure tossing I just use a 7' medium trout rod, same rod I use for pinks. I think mine cost around $40 and came with the reel. no need to go expensive unless you really want to. With your budget there is a lot of options
Same and it has lasted me 5 years and has caught me lots of coho. Just have to change the line on it every year as it will coil from sitting so long
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Currently, I'm using a Daiwa Procaster with a Abu Garcia Cardinal spinning reel.
The Daiwa Procaster rod could be a little more sensitive, but it's durable and reliable.
If I'm going to get another rod, I will probably get a Shakespeare Ugly Stik because they're known to be extremely tough and sensitive, yet affordable. I LOVE my Abu Garcia Cardinal spinning reel! It outperforms reels that cost three times more, and the fit, finish, and durability is superb.
I use Sufix 832 line and I'm a believer as I haven't lost a single fish ever since I used it!
Today, I caught a huge aggressive male chum salmon with this setup and it performed like a champion!
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Thanks, everyone! Didn't think I could get anything half decent unless I spent some money, obviously, that doesn't seem to be the case. I've heard good things about the Cardinal from Abu Garcia. What are the main differences between the Clarus and Ugly stick besides the price?
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Rodney, is that your personal setup?
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Kind of. I have a Sustain 2500FG and a Saros 3000FA to pair with that rod, but that's a bit over your budget so I recommended the Sahara. I have a smaller Sahara for trout and it is an impressive reel for what it costs. I also have friends who use the Sahara 3000FE for salmon and really enjoy it. I also have a Clarus CSS90ML2B to go with the above two reels for spots where little current exists.
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I run a TFO or Berkley spinning rod right now. I like light power, fast action rods. Have landed lots of big fish on them, without an issues or over tiring the fish. I find lighter rods can actually land fish faster than heavier rods because the bend in the rod tires the fish out more quickly.
Spinning reel, I don't think you can get any better than the Penn Fierce. Definitely the best reel I have used so far for spinning, and is even rated for saltwater use! Thing have been bomb proof for me and I run them on 2 rods now. Even better, in the states they only cost $53! Up here they'll run you about $89.
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Also, why 7' vs 8'6" or for that matter, is there an ideal length? I'm looking for a reel that can hold 12lb test easily. Does the cardinal fit that bill?
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Everyday, where can I buy the Penn reels down at the states?
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I'm using the top of the line Abu Garcia Cardinal STX which cost me only 50 dollars Canadian, which is the regular price. Abu Garcia has been building the Cardinal spinning reels since the 1960's. There are still people out there who are using their Cardinal reels from the 1960's! It's better built and performs much better than my Made in Japan Shimano Symetre. A light to medium sized reel will do the job because Cardinals are so well built!
As for fishing line, braid is the way to go for these Cardinal reels. Forgot about 12lb test mono, go to 40lb braid which is the same diameter as 10lb mono. Once again, I haven't lost a single fish,from small to big once I started using Sufix 832.
Go for the 8'6 because the longer rod will give you added casting distance.
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Everyday, where can I buy the Penn reels down at the states?
Walmart believe it or not... cheapest price around for them.
I'd recommend the 2000 size, and spool it with 15 pound braid which is the same diameter as 2-4 pound test.
What I do is spool 50 yards of 20 pound backing, do an albright knot and then 1 spool of 150 yards of 15 pound braid. That way you don't need to replace your line with a 300 yard spool every time you need new line. Braid lasts a lot longer than mono on the spool, and you rarely lose fish, get better hooks sets, etc. Braid is the way to go when tossing metal for sure.
As said above... the longer rods give you a slight advantage in casting distance, I generally run a 9'6" rod.
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Walmart believe it or not... cheapest price around for them.
I'd recommend the 2000 size, and spool it with 15 pound braid which is the same diameter as 2-4 pound test.
What I do is spool 50 yards of 20 pound backing, do an albright knot and then 1 spool of 150 yards of 15 pound braid. That way you don't need to replace your line with a 300 yard spool every time you need new line. Braid lasts a lot longer than mono on the spool, and you rarely lose fish, get better hooks sets, etc. Braid is the way to go when tossing metal for sure.
As said above... the longer rods give you a slight advantage in casting distance, I generally run a 9'6" rod.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Penn-Firece-Spinning-Reel/24537483
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Pennreg-Fierce-Spinning-Reel/1096961.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3DFRC2000%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts%26x%3D10%26y%3D7&Ntt=FRC2000&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products#productChart
http://www.amazon.com/Penn-Fierce-Spinning-Reel/dp/B007ZBCQCM
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As long as you don't crank the drag too tight, most inexpensive spinning reels will handle big fish. And, don't crank the handle when the fish won't come in your direction. Cranking while the fish is running will twist the line. Just pump and reel. It just takes longer to land bigger stubborn fish. I've caught literally thounsands of summer-run steelhead on light spinning reels and 7 to 9 foot rods. Very often I took just my 7 weight fly rod and added a spinning reel for places where fly fishing wasn't practical. I don't like to go lighter than 12 pound test line for salmon because the slightest abraison can cause break offs at a crucial time. You have to match the rod to the lures you are tossing. It's difficult to toss a lightweight spoon or spinner with a heavy rod.
Although I seldom do anything but fly fish anymore, I'm not above using a spinning reel when the occasion calls for it. I have a whole drawer full of old Mitchels and other makes, but the two Quantum reels I've had for at least 20 years are up to any task I ask of them. I have a few Asian made reels that I leave in Thailand for when I'm fishing there and they also do the job because I don't crank the drag too tight. The few spinning reels that ever failed me were because I over cranked the drag too tight. It's easier just to use the palm of your hand if you need extra tension... just as you would with a single action fly reel.
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Thanks to all of you who took the time to help. From all the info that was presented, I think I'll get that 8'6" Ugly Stick . Now to decide between the Cardinal and Penn Fierce. The way it's looking, I'm only going to spend around $100. With the left over money, I'll take the wife to lunch and build up the brownie points
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http://www.ramblingfisherman.com/2013/10/gear-review-best-spinning-combo/
I use the same combo (got it before this guy recommended it) and honestly it is perfect and very versatile especially if you are thinking of using it on the Vedder and getting into some fast water and going after chum or coho.
I also like it because it is sturdy enough to get a nice cast out on the Fraser with a heavier lure (2/3 ounce). It is also very light for it's size.
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Just bought the 8'6" Clarus at Army and navy for $79.99. They have a promotion where you get $10 off instantly. Will go to Walmart to look at Penn Fierce and Plfeuger reels.
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Landed a 20 lb fresh chum last week on my 6-12 lb clarus with 8 lb mono last week.
Love the Shimano Clarus. Fantastic rod for the price.
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Good job on getting the Clarus. That extra piece of cork over the reel seat is nice. I had a Pflueger President.. I really liked their trout ultralight reel I bought a few years ago, so I thought the larger reel for salmon would be just as nice, but it wasn't. Kind of grainy, not very smooth (think it was a 6735).
Bring your Clarus to the store and spin it around. I think you'll see what I mean about the President.
I'd look at the Shimano reels. Pick one in the lineup that fits your budget. Whatever you get, just make sure it's smooth like butter..and light. I find with spinning setups, you can't really skimp on the rod or the reel, both have to be balanced.
I really like fireline crystal 10 lb, with a 3 ft seaguar blue leader tied to a tiny swivel.
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Tried a Plfeuger Trion reel at A&N. I could feel the spool wobble. The Shimano reel were smooth and tight. Haven't tried the Penn Fierce yet, will go to Bellingham Walmart this weekend to see. While I'm there I'll also look at some Shimano reels as well
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The search is still ongoing. Does anyone have any thoughts on Quantum reels(Energy PTi30), Shimano Symetre 3000 series. The Quantum is on sale for $80us and Symetre is $100. Thanks
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I use a 9 feet Berkley Air im8 light action spinning rod rated for 6-10 lbs together with Shimano Sahara 3000 reel. Caught loads of cohos on this setup and it's really fun set up too. I load it with 8lb p-line mono.
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My Symetre has lasted six or 7 years at a guess and is just about run its span, great reel and the smoothest drag going. Bottom drag with a fighting drag lever was nice but not crucial.
Ive yet to see or have a Quantum last more than a season or two.
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I have a Symetre with a 9' St Croix Triumph light power, I bought it because I lost my Pflueger President set up. I would've bought a Clarus but it was right in the middle of pink season and everything was sold out.
I really like the Symetre. Very smooth. Way better than my Pflueger. I run 125 yards of 8 lb Fireline Crystal (cheaper this way) with I think about 40 yards of 6 lb mono as backing and haven't had any issues whatsoever. I have the 2500. I prefer a lightweight set-up. I haven't come anywhere close to being spooled.
I really like the Fireline Crystal. I tie a 15 lb Seaguar blue leader to a swivel and it takes a lot of effort to break a snag, with the leader breaking 99% of the time.
I don't have a lot of experience with spinning stuff, but my buddy who does loves Shimano. Can't stop raving about it. He's got a Clarus with a Stradic Ci4. His set-up is the da bomb. Incredibly lightweight and balanced. I think if you go as near to that with the Shimano reels you can't lose. I believe there is two models between the Stradic and Symetre.
Locally, go to SeaRun and talk to Cody or Andrew or one of the guys there. They have all the good stuff in that shop.
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The Fenwick MHX 6-15 is an awesome rod for under a 100
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The search is still ongoing. Does anyone have any thoughts on Quantum reels(Energy PTi30), Shimano Symetre 3000 series. The Quantum is on sale for $80us and Symetre is $100. Thanks
The symetre is a good reel, i used this on my bass and catfish rod down south. Landed some nice 15-20lbs cats and 6-7lb bass on this reel with a 7ft rd.
Don't go overkill and use a 40lb braid use a light mono like 10-12lb. Fish hit lures hard as is and you don't need huge hook sets imho.
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I fish the Symetre 3000 with 8lb nanofil (tied directly to the lure) for my light salmon setup. It works.
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What is a brownie points? ;D
Tadpole....... fishing or hunting every weekend. 8)
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What is a brownie points? ;D
Tadpole....... fishing or hunting every weekend. 8)
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+brownie+points
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The famous brownie point! It's the household currency. One acquires said currency by performing chores around the house, often to the satisfaction of "she who must be obeyed". If enough of said currency is available, the one performing all these tasks can go fishing. Hope that makes it clear as mud.
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I have a Okuma Conossieur noodle rod 9' 2-8 pound line, paired up with a Shimano Sienna 4000 reel. Relatively inexpensive for the whole set-up. Roughly $150 ish. Hooked a lot of coho on that setup. Just make sure if you get something that light of a rod for targeting just coho, that if you do hook into a chum that is willing to fight, it's usually better to just put the tip down, give her a tug, and break that lure off. A $7 lure is a lot cheaper than a rod tip... ;)
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If enough of said currency is available, the one performing all these tasks can go fishing.
Truer words were never spoken.