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Title: Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: lucky on June 30, 2004, 04:18:07 PM
took the kayak to the mouth today, low tide was at about 11, got there a little later than I would of liked to around 10ish, saw two guys casting both had fish, the guy close to me had been there since 9 and his looked to be about 5 to 6 lbs.  Saw a few fish jumping when i first got there so i tried drifting with a buzz bomb for a bit, no luck for me after about 40 min I paddled ashore to see that the girlfriend had caught 4 flounders already, so I gave up on coho and put on some weight and shrimp. In total we ended up with 20 nice size flounders  and a bunch of tommy cod
Title: Re:Cap mouth
Post by: _Ivan_ on June 30, 2004, 04:24:32 PM
no a bad day atleast you cought some flounders.
Title: Re:Cap mouth
Post by: Fish Assassin on June 30, 2004, 04:28:38 PM
I stand to be corrected but isn't 20 flounders over the limit ?
Title: Re:Cap mouth
Post by: lucky on June 30, 2004, 04:39:21 PM
no,  I think the limit is 8, but there were three of us fishing
Title: Re:Cap mouth
Post by: FlyNut on June 30, 2004, 05:06:00 PM
I have been "floundering" lately ::), maybe I should try flounder fishing.  How do you catch them on a flyrod.
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: spring_killer on June 30, 2004, 11:06:34 PM
U can catch them on any rod...the set up is simple  ;)
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: Spudcote on June 30, 2004, 11:33:44 PM
I've heard that small shrimp pattern stripped near the bottom (obviously... ::)) will take its fair share of fish.
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: FlyNut on June 30, 2004, 11:43:52 PM
Thanks, Spudcote!
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: Spudcote on July 01, 2004, 11:21:28 AM
When I walk out onto the bar at the mouth of the Cap, you see lots of flounder swimming away from you in about 2 ft of water, so you may want to give that a try.

Also, low tide at spanish banks exposes some great sand bars, I've never seen anyone fishing from them, but that isn't to say that there aren't any fish, just watch your casts because it can be quite crowded. The tides right now are insanely low, so you may want to give it a try some time soon, this is what the tides look like right now, http://www.dairiki.org/tides/daily.php/van

Post to tell us all how it goes.

Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: FlyNut on July 01, 2004, 12:55:29 PM
newbie question: :o :o   Do you fish low tide, or hight tide, and why?
 
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: FlyNut on July 01, 2004, 01:08:23 PM
newbie question: :o :o   Do you fish low tide, or hight tide, and why?
 

To answer myself:
"TIDES
Flounder are one of the fish least affected by the size of tide in relation to feeding. Neap tides tend to see fish feeding over a longer period almost the whole in and out cycle, whereas spring tides see this feeding spell condensed more towards the slack water periods. Loosely, the last hour of the ebb and first two hours of the new flood are good, followed by the last two hours of the flood and the first two hours of the ebb. It can change though, when applied locally."
http://www.worldseafishing.com/species/flounder.shtml

..and flounder fishing on fly:
"Flounder feed mostly on baitfish, so patterns that mimic baitfish will almost always catch flounder. Clouser's Minnows in various colors, Randy Hamilton's Copperheads, or Lefty's Deceivers are all good patterns.  "  and more good stuff to read: http://www.greatoutdoorprovision.com/gear/flyfish/howto.html
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: Fish Assassin on July 01, 2004, 01:40:18 PM
An outgoing tide works best for me
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: FlyNut on July 01, 2004, 01:44:15 PM
An outgoing tide works best for me

Fish Assasin, I don't understand.  My gut feeling is that when it is an incoming tide, it covers land and there are insects & stuff that become available for fish to eat.  I don't understand why an outgoing tide would work (although I am sure you are right).
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: Fish Assassin on July 01, 2004, 01:49:02 PM
I am referring to fishing for salmon at the mouth of the Cap. At least it works for me !
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: FlyNut on July 01, 2004, 02:02:25 PM
I am referring to fishing for salmon at the mouth of the Cap. At least it works for me !

Thanks, Assasin.  I am just seeking to understand.  I am trying to think "fish" and see why they would like an outgoing tide. ???  Again, I am sure you are right, I just like to understand the reasoning from the fishy standpoint.
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: Spudcote on July 01, 2004, 02:11:42 PM
The way I see it is that on the outgoing tide, any fish in the river part and at the mouth, the water level drops, and fish are more "congested", and you can cover more fish with a single cast...or at least that's my logic.  :D
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: FlyNut on July 01, 2004, 02:16:11 PM
The way I see it is that on the outgoing tide, any fish in the river part and at the mouth, the water level drops, and fish are more "congested", and you can cover more fish with a single cast...or at least that's my logic.  :D

ok, that explains low tide being better.

I have since done some reading, and as far as fishing during tide (or around tide) vs. fishing when the tide is not happening.... this is what I read:

"A: Joseph, when we talk about fishing the tide change what we're referring to is one hour before to two hours after the high or low water period. The reason fishing is better then is salmon don't like to expend any more energy to capture food then necessary. During the high and low tide changes salmon can feed when there is little or no current to contend with making it less work to attain the same amount of food. Capt. John"

Of couse, I have also read just the opposite of the above ??? ::) ??? ::)
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: wmz913 on July 01, 2004, 04:42:09 PM
Could anyone tell me the exactly location that you fish around Cap Mouth?  Where do I park my car?...thanks
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: Fish Assassin on July 01, 2004, 04:44:42 PM
Park your car at Ambleside. You can fish Ambleside, along the West Vancouver shoreline and the mouth of the Cap
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: FlyNut on July 01, 2004, 04:46:13 PM
Could anyone tell me the exactly location that you fish around Cap Mouth?  Where do I park my car?...thanks

I like to know too.  AND I have heard that you can fish from the East side of the river (next to the native land), and that area is much nicer for fly fishing (more elbow room to cast from shore).  Instructions to get there is also appreciated.
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: Fish Assassin on July 01, 2004, 05:35:34 PM
You do NOT want to fish on the east side of the river. That's Indian land and they will let you know in no uncertain terms. Stay on the west side and you should be OK. If in doubt just follow the crowd.
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: FlyNut on July 04, 2004, 10:26:30 PM
When I walk out onto the bar at the mouth of the Cap, you see lots of flounder swimming away from you in about 2 ft of water, so you may want to give that a try.

Also, low tide at spanish banks exposes some great sand bars, I've never seen anyone fishing from them, but that isn't to say that there aren't any fish, just watch your casts because it can be quite crowded. The tides right now are insanely low, so you may want to give it a try some time soon, this is what the tides look like right now, http://www.dairiki.org/tides/daily.php/van

Post to tell us all how it goes.



Spuncote, can you catch the flounders without wading?  Ain't got my wading gear yet.
Title: Re:Cap mouth June 30th
Post by: THE_ROE_SLINGER on July 05, 2004, 08:30:13 PM
how big were they