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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: hrenya on April 22, 2016, 05:22:21 PM

Title: crabbing
Post by: hrenya on April 22, 2016, 05:22:21 PM
I was wondering if me and my bud going for crabs , and we catch 4 each , but he wants me to have them . Does this work same as with salmon (letter with info) or something else ?!
I`m mostly concerned about transporting them , cuz I have to drop off my bud at one point and head to another ...
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: bobby b on April 22, 2016, 08:50:38 PM
All the info you seek is in the regs.....

.....If you have a license then you should know this already. The possession limit for all crab species is 2x the daily limit.

If you have eight crabs on you, that would put you 2 over your daily catch limit, but 4 under your possession limit.....

However ..... if 'head to another' means another spot to catch some more crab then you may be in violation....or maybe you would just be ....greedy?
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: firstlight on April 22, 2016, 09:11:25 PM
All the info you seek is in the regs.....

.....If you have a license then you should know this already. The possession limit for all crab species is 2x the daily limit.

If you have eight crabs on you, that would put you 2 over your daily catch limit, but 4 under your possession limit.....

However ..... if 'head to another' means another spot to catch some more crab then you may be in violation....or maybe you would just be ....greedy?

Huhh? ???
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: canso on April 22, 2016, 09:21:21 PM
It's the same as fish.  no more notes from your buddies, they closed that loophole. Lol

This is how it reads

"You may transport another person’s sport caught fish, provided that the total of all fish possessed does not exceed your personal possession limit for each individual species prescribed by regulation or by licence condition."




Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: firstlight on April 22, 2016, 09:29:02 PM
Am I mistaken or is the Crab limit not 4 each?

Lots of soft shelled (half empty) Crab out there right now.
I would give it some time before heading out Crabbing.
Not sure if its just a localized thing but where I was last Saturday they were only half full at best.
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: bobby b on April 22, 2016, 09:36:23 PM
No you are not mistaken.... my bad...depending on the area it is 6 or 4 .... Locally it would be 4
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: bobby b on April 22, 2016, 09:37:36 PM
So ya.... to the OP ...if you have 8 on ya your possession limit is maxed out.
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: 96XJ on April 22, 2016, 09:39:27 PM
Huhh? ???

X2
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: TimL on April 22, 2016, 10:05:51 PM
Am I mistaken or is the Crab limit not 4 each?

Lots of soft shelled (half empty) Crab out there right now.
I would give it some time before heading out Crabbing.
Not sure if its just a localized thing but where I was last Saturday they were only half full at best.
I agree with your observations..but this is fairly typical right now. Late May through June right before commercial opening usually is best. So far this year hasn't been as good for dungeness compared to last year at this time. Lots of females and undersized males. I remembered limiting out (or close to)on dungies from April onward. I am crabbing from shore mind you..wondering whether the boaters are experiencing the same thing. Maybe it's just a seasonal glitch or simply increased fishing pressure on the weekends ?
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: bobby b on April 22, 2016, 10:44:19 PM
X2

That was based on a daily limit of 6 ... :p
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: firstlight on April 22, 2016, 11:13:01 PM
I agree with your observations..but this is fairly typical right now. Late May through June right before commercial opening usually is best. So far this year hasn't been as good for dungeness compared to last year at this time. Lots of females and undersized males. I remembered limiting out (or close to)on dungies from April onward. I am crabbing from shore mind you..wondering whether the boaters are experiencing the same thing. Maybe it's just a seasonal glitch or simply increased fishing pressure on the weekends ?

We were in the boat and the size was quite good and I don't think I seen a female the whole day which is probably a first for me.
I didn't look at the obvious throw backs to see if male or female so maybe some of the smaller ones were fermale but all of the larger ones were male.
Unfortunately they were very soft.
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: Dude on April 23, 2016, 10:43:23 PM
Correct me if im wrong but is it true that the amount of meat in the crab depends on the moon hence why they are soft at time and hard other times?
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: Fish Assassin on April 23, 2016, 10:59:44 PM
Nothing to do with the moon and everything to do with their outgrowing their current shell.
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: hrenya on April 23, 2016, 11:34:28 PM
All the info you seek is in the regs.....

.....If you have a license then you should know this already. The possession limit for all crab species is 2x the daily limit.

If you have eight crabs on you, that would put you 2 over your daily catch limit, but 4 under your possession limit.....

However ..... if 'head to another' means another spot to catch some more crab then you may be in violation....or maybe you would just be ....greedy?
if you would read more careful , you would note that I said that I will drop off my bud on the way to my final destination . And the actual question was can I have 8 crab while transporting ... nothing have to do with greed at all .
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: big_fish on April 24, 2016, 12:02:18 AM
I have to drop off my bud at one point and head to another ...

if you would read more careful , you would note that I said that I will drop off my bud on the way to my final destination . And the actual question was can I have 8 crab while transporting ... nothing have to do with greed at all .

You should run for politics.
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: Dude on April 24, 2016, 05:24:35 PM
Anyone get out crabbing this weekend ? How did it go
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: bigblockfox on April 24, 2016, 09:46:09 PM
7 keepers, indian arm
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: TimL on April 24, 2016, 11:04:53 PM
4 keeper red rocks, no keeper dungies..all females and undersized males. This was shore-based in the Belcarra area. Tide was definitely not optimal for shore-based crabbing (over 10 ft difference between low and high tides) this weekend.
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: BananasQ on April 25, 2016, 09:02:38 AM
Skunked on the Sechelt Inlet - just getting a feel for it still. Very different to Indian Arm.
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: bigblockfox on April 25, 2016, 09:06:42 AM
sorry all dungies
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: canso on April 25, 2016, 09:27:16 AM
all soft shells in White Rock
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: Noahs Arc on April 25, 2016, 09:29:43 AM
Skunked on the Sechelt Inlet - just getting a feel for it still. Very different to Indian Arm.

I find that area needs a long soak. In my experience there is fewer crab in terms of numbers, but they're almost all keepers, I usually get 3-5 crab in a trap after a good soak, but most of the males will be legal.
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: TimL on April 25, 2016, 10:02:12 AM
I find that area needs a long soak. In my experience there is fewer crab in terms of numbers, but they're almost all keepers, I usually get 3-5 crab in a trap after a good soak, but most of the males will be legal.
Had a similar experience last fall when crabbing in the Gibsons. Not as many crabs but the keepers there are all significantly over-sized and mature-I limited out that day...just need to put in more time to get them.
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: BananasQ on April 25, 2016, 11:11:14 AM
I find that area needs a long soak. In my experience there is fewer crab in terms of numbers, but they're almost all keepers, I usually get 3-5 crab in a trap after a good soak, but most of the males will be legal.
Thanks NA, what would you consider a "good soak" - I did a 4 hour soak, but this area is tricky - its very fjord like and very steep and rocky, not ideal for dungeness.  I think I need to find the right spot still, but hey, that's all part of the fun!
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: DanL on April 25, 2016, 11:58:19 AM
It's the same as fish.  no more notes from your buddies, they closed that loophole. Lol

This is how it reads

"You may transport another person’s sport caught fish, provided that the total of all fish possessed does not exceed your personal possession limit for each individual species prescribed by regulation or by licence condition."

I gather the above quote was from this page: http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/points/packaging-emballage-eng.html

Which also says:

Quote
From section 13, British Columbia Sport Fishing Regulations:

Possession
13. (1) No person shall possess more fish of a species, other than halibut, except at the person’s ordinary residence, than twice the daily quota for fish of that species prescribed by these Regulations.

The British Columbia Sport Fishing Regulations state that you may possess only twice the daily limit of all species (except halibut, as set out in the Tidal Waters Sport Fishing Licence). This possession limit applies per person whether you or someone else caught the fish.

If the daily limit is 4, then the possession limit is 8 and nowhere does it state that what you possess must have been caught by you. The way its worded it seems that the original poster should be allowed to transport his friend's limit of crabs in addition to his own for a total of 8.

If so, the loophole seems to still somewhat exist, but what you cannot do anymore is drive home with 50 crabs along with a dozen 'notes' from 'friends' who supposedly caught their own then gave them to you.
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: Noahs Arc on April 25, 2016, 02:24:57 PM
Thanks NA, what would you consider a "good soak" - I did a 4 hour soak, but this area is tricky - its very fjord like and very steep and rocky, not ideal for dungeness.  I think I need to find the right spot still, but hey, that's all part of the fun!

As long as possible. 4 hours is a pretty good soak if you're just waiting for the traps. You're right though if you're on a ledge or rocky bottom you're going to be pressed for luck, especially on a big tide swing.
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: Fish or cut bait. on April 25, 2016, 03:21:51 PM
A lot folk get impatient and check thier trap too frequently.
It takes a bit of time for a crab to find the bait after they get the scent (tides will play a part) you pull your trap just before they all jump in and then they shake their little crab heads and wander away.
They don't swim quickly like a fish.

Good luck 8)
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: hrenya on April 25, 2016, 05:05:15 PM
I gather the above quote was from this page: http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/points/packaging-emballage-eng.html

Which also says:

If the daily limit is 4, then the possession limit is 8 and nowhere does it state that what you possess must have been caught by you. The way its worded it seems that the original poster should be allowed to transport his friend's limit of crabs in addition to his own for a total of 8.

If so, the loophole seems to still somewhat exist, but what you cannot do anymore is drive home with 50 crabs along with a dozen 'notes' from 'friends' who supposedly caught their own then gave them to you.

ty for explanations , I was really confused . and I will never do "the 50 crabs transport" . I asked exactly about 8 crabs , when technically we could keep 16 :)
I do fish by the rules , but you know sometimes you give your catch away to bud of yours if he needs it more than you , or if you don't really want it , but he would gladly accept it . I don't see anything wrong with that , cuz both of us putting in time and fish by rules ...
anyways , to make long story short , we end up with 4 crabs keepers and those were donated to me , thanks to Tim :)
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: 96XJ on April 26, 2016, 04:03:54 PM
I find that area needs a long soak. In my experience there is fewer crab in terms of numbers, but they're almost all keepers, I usually get 3-5 crab in a trap after a good soak, but most of the males will be legal.

I know there was a motion to close crabbing in an area in the sechelt inlet due to over fishing
Title: Re: crabbing
Post by: Fish or cut bait. on April 27, 2016, 11:43:51 AM
Possession limit is to be reflective of those who travel.
If you live in Vancouver, Crab in Vancouver and go home you better be able to prove you were camping.

If you have over your personal limit.
Or a good reason or a note with his/here license number from the person who gifted you with the crabs.
Perhaps, he had to go home and change before he came back to your house for the crab cookoff.