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Title: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: Rodney on July 28, 2016, 05:30:36 PM
Fraser River mouth:
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=186635&ID=all

Tidal Fraser River:
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=186631&ID=all

Non-tidal Fraser River:
http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=186623&ID=all
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: Noahs Arc on July 29, 2016, 09:01:28 AM
Bust out the spin n glows!!!!!!!
Leave the flossing gear at home people!
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: fic on July 29, 2016, 10:00:27 AM
I've never tried targeting chinook jacks in the Tidal Fraser from shore during this time of the season.  It is likely or even possible during this opening?
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: RalphH on July 29, 2016, 11:36:42 AM
I've never tried targeting chinook jacks in the Tidal Fraser from shore during this time of the season.  It is likely or even possible during this opening?

people do it. Mostly it's still fishing with roe. I haven't done it much in 30+ years. It is usually very slow but I remember some very good fishing in the later part of August once the river clears a bit.
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: fic on July 29, 2016, 05:59:34 PM
people do it. Mostly it's still fishing with roe. I haven't done it much in 30+ years. It is usually very slow but I remember some very good fishing in the later part of August once the river clears a bit.
Thanks for the info.  I was thinking of using spoons to cast and retrieve but I guess the water is still a bit too murky for that.
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on July 29, 2016, 06:17:33 PM
The fall fishery in the tidal Fraser is better than the summer. Wait until the white springs come into the river in bigger numbers than it will be good.
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: clarki on July 29, 2016, 07:07:47 PM
Thanks for the info.  I was thinking of using spoons to cast and retrieve but I guess the water is still a bit too murky for that.

Within the not too distant past, the creek mouths of the Fraser River were popular chinook fishing locations and throwing spoons was one of the ways to target them. Although the fishery isn't what it was, and the creek mouth fishery came into its' own when the freshet was in full swing, it still could offer some opportunities for you.
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: RalphH on July 29, 2016, 10:20:02 PM
Within the not too distant past, the creek mouths of the Fraser River were popular chinook fishing locations and throwing spoons was one of the ways to target them. Although the fishery isn't what it was, and the creek mouth fishery came into its' own when the freshet was in full swing, it still could offer some opportunities for you.

It generally doesn't open until a good portion of that has passed but they will also be coho! :D
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: Rodney on July 29, 2016, 11:53:59 PM
Fishing with roe for chinook jacks in the Tidal Fraser River doesn't usually pick up until late August and gets really good for a few days just before the bait ban comes in effect after the September long weekend. On some days 30 or 40 jacks can be seen caught in one tide change when the season peaks.

The problem with fishing with roe during this time of the year is the high abundance of coarse fish. Your bait will be pecked on constantly so unless there are salmon constantly on the move and biting your bait, you'll need to rebait once every ten minutes or so because of the coarse fish.

Fishing with spoons for them is not impossible especially if water clarity is reasonably good in late August, but don't expect success rate to be anywhere near what you'd see in the pink salmon fishery. I find chinook salmon rarely take spoons in the Tidal Fraser River compared to pink and coho salmon.
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: samw on July 30, 2016, 12:37:14 AM
While fishing for pinks in late Sept one year with a spoon in the tidal Fraser, I ended up with a chinook jack.  It jumped and pulled like no pink that I've caught ever did and this fish was only 3-4 lbs.  Visibility was poor but fish somehow find those spoons (probably through vibrations).

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Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: nosey on July 30, 2016, 08:54:09 AM
Bar fishing Monday morning sounds good to me! Hopefully the snaggers will stay home.
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: chris gadsden on July 30, 2016, 11:59:37 AM
Bar fishing Monday morning sounds good to me! Hopefully the snaggers will stay home.
One would hope so but of course there always will be some, just like those that continue to use their phones will driving.

I have my spot all picked out to set out the bar rod at first light.
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: Steelhead Fever on August 01, 2016, 01:57:25 AM
Hi guys, was really hoping bar fishing would open on the tidal portion of the Fraser today aug 1st but it says....current status is closed.
Those regs are only when it's "open" as far as I understand.
I'd love to go out for a few hrs today and chill with rod and bell, would be so nice to do that even though I only get bullheads and whitefish hahahaha, I'm getting more confident now though that one day I'll hear that bell go crazy.
When will it open for salmon? hmmm
Last year it opened and closed like a couple days later due to low water and drought.
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: RalphH on August 01, 2016, 07:52:23 AM
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Waters:  Tidal waters of the Fraser River (downstream edge of the CPR bridge at
Mission to the mouth).

Effective dates: 
One hour before sunrise Monday, August 1 until one hour after sunset Monday,
September 5, 2016, the daily limit for chinook salmon is four (4) with only one
(1) greater than 50 cm.
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: Rodney on August 01, 2016, 09:55:04 AM
Steelhead Fever,

The Tidal Fraser River is open for salmon fishing and chinook salmon retention as of today. I've included the fishery notice for it in the original post but here it is again:

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=186631&ID=all

You were looking at the BC Tidal Sport Fishing Guide, where the table has been updated incorrectly as it does more often than not.

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/tidal-maree/fraser-eng.html
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: Steelhead Fever on August 01, 2016, 11:03:16 AM
Thanks Rod  :)
That is awesome they opened it, sure hope they change the status to "open" soon.
I trust you cause you'd know, just seems weird that it says closed.
I'm thinking about going this afternoon :)
Just a part of me is hesitant cause of the status on the website.
The DFO although really friendly are a bit intimidating in real life when they show up.
Have fun out there everyone!!
Don't forget your licences, and play by the rules.
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: Rodney on August 01, 2016, 12:30:22 PM
No worries, simply print out that fishery notice and carry it with you if you are concerned.

That table was updated from blank to having that fishery notice link included, and the individual updating it, rather than reading the notice first and putting down the correct daily quota for opened species, he or she simply put down "closed". It's unprofessional for a federal employee who's being paid by you and me. It baffles me and I think all of you should phone or write in to complain. This is an ongoing negligence that I've pointed out to them for years.
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: chris gadsden on August 01, 2016, 02:28:12 PM
No worries, simply print out that fishery notice and carry it with you if you are concerned.

That table was updated from blank to having that fishery notice link included, and the individual updating it, rather than reading the notice first and putting down the correct daily quota for opened species, he or she simply put down "closed". It's unprofessional for a federal employee who's being paid by you and me. It baffles me and I think all of you should phone or write in to complain. This is an ongoing negligence that I've pointed out to them for years.
Barb was at Island 22 today, hope someone pointed this out to her. Sometimes it takes time to get things done. :P ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: Wiseguy on August 01, 2016, 10:37:37 PM
Lots of BBs on Hope Bar and at Jones Bar today...
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: chris gadsden on August 02, 2016, 03:23:37 AM
Lots of BBs on Hope Bar and at Jones Bar today...
Unfortunately they will continue to do so until the Department closes the river back down or should they consider spot closures in problem areas? Not sure what else can be done to keep us in the river. Of course the 3 foot leader is still being worked on and the fixed rod only scenario.
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: Rodney on August 02, 2016, 12:34:34 PM
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Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: armytruck on August 02, 2016, 01:48:19 PM
Didn't see alot of action at Gill and there abouts . Alot of noise polution  >:(with people rippin up the place with 4x4's w/open headers etc .
Anyway ,tried a variation of color S&Glows to no avail . Anchored out at a different spot and tossed in the B/Rod #5 spinner . All bar rods out as far as I could see there  :) . Jumped in for a swim to cool off  :P . Great to be on the river again besides the ripp raff spittin boulders . Good to have a boat to get away from it .
Happy fishin everyone  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Fraser River chinook salmon opening information
Post by: chris gadsden on August 06, 2016, 06:53:06 PM
Didn't see alot of action at Gill and there abouts . Alot of noise polution  >:(with people rippin up the place with 4x4's w/open headers etc .
Anyway ,tried a variation of color S&Glows to no avail . Anchored out at a different spot and tossed in the B/Rod #5 spinner . All bar rods out as far as I could see there  :) . Jumped in for a swim to cool off  :P . Great to be on the river again besides the ripp raff spittin boulders . Good to have a boat to get away from it .
Happy fishin everyone  ;D
Stopped at Gill this AM on the way back from Merritt and the motor bikes were ripping around creating a dust storm, no respect for other users. Good to see no one TOWing, lots of bar rods out but heard no bells tolling in 20 minutes  I was there.

 On the other hand they were at hard at work in the areas around Hope, no hope in them getting the message it seems.