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Title: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: psd1179 on December 05, 2019, 11:10:14 PM
I can only cast 30-40 feet. the accuracy is also awful, always  switch 30-45 degree from the direction where I want to cast.
Any tips?
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: bobby b on December 06, 2019, 08:25:34 AM
Centerpin is not gonna give you as distant a cast as a bait cast or spinning reel. More weight will help esp when new to Centerpin. Accuracy comes with practice...practice ...practice. I can repeatedly cast to the same spot at a reasonable distance. For most really wide runs, distance wise, your pretty much limited to mid river or just beyond.
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: essyoo on December 06, 2019, 09:18:08 AM
I've only tried it once with my setup so far, but found this video super helpful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNAUHV1qAk8

it seems to me that tuning the amount of weight to the rod/reel/casting technique is the key to unlocking the whole thing? Looking forward to practicing this more.
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: RalphH on December 06, 2019, 10:03:44 AM
you are allowing the spool to turn a bit before making the cast?

Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: bigblockfox on December 06, 2019, 02:42:57 PM
i suggest adding more weight for people that are new to center pin fishing. as you become better subtract the weight. you need to learn how to load the rod. 
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: ribolovac02 on December 06, 2019, 05:39:57 PM
Obviously , precision comes with practice, so will distance, on a river like the vedder , if you got good at your casting , there should be very few runs , if any ,actually , that you can’t reach the other bank .
This should give you an idea , how much more you gotta practice lol ,  ;D ;D ;D, bit of a joke , no hard feelings , it is true tho...
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: RalphH on December 06, 2019, 07:38:23 PM
Considering the strain on my risk from retrieving 100+ feet of line, shorter cast and shorter drag free drifts are better!
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: psd1179 on December 06, 2019, 09:43:54 PM
Thanks for the input.
It seems the rod matters in terms of casting. I used a 10' baitcasting rod practice before. Today I switched to a 12' centerpin rod. It is totally different. I can reach 80+ feet now. But accuracy still need improve.
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: Every Day on December 06, 2019, 09:54:31 PM
Pins should be able to cast a considerable distance. If I have enough space behind me for a half decent swing/rod load, I can cast just as far as my spinning set ups - with just the weight of a spoon on (I've started swinging spoons on my pins instead of spinning rods much of the time now). It just takes practice.

For tight spaces, you can give the reel a bit of a bat before you cast. Takes a bit to get used to, but you can get a good 80+ feet with very little casting room. I often do underhand casts while giving the reel a bit of a bat if there is overhanging brush directly behind me (typical of small island rivers). Again, you should be able to get at least 50 feet with an underhand cast with proper rod loading and reel spin. As for accuracy, that just comes with practice and getting used to your setup.
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: greyghost on December 06, 2019, 09:58:22 PM
Thanks for the input.
I can reach 80+ feet now.
I hope you don’t get upset with me when I hook fish at your feet! 😎
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: Jk47 on December 10, 2019, 09:25:27 AM
^What Ralph said^. Figure out how to get the real spinning prior to your actual cast (during the rod load) and you'll get more distance and a smoother all around cast. But- it sucks reeling in 100 ft plus of line through current - and really cuts down on your fishing time. While there are definitely times you may want to bomb casts to the holding water on the opposite bank, I find its generally best to concentrate your efforts on shorter casts for fish on your own side of the river. More casts = more time with your presentation in the water = more fish (IMO)
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: ae_9 on December 10, 2019, 12:14:53 PM
I'm still unable to figure it out as well
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: psd1179 on December 10, 2019, 01:47:49 PM
I'm still unable to figure it out as well

Longer rod is better. It allows the reel spin while the lure does not hit the ground.
The weight shell be the upper end of the rod line weight.

I am comfortable with the centerpin cast now. However, I made a bad decision in choose a Lamiglas redline centerpin rod. This brand new rod broke without any impact in one hour use. The warranty cost half of the rod price.

Another suggestion is use braid instead of mono line. mono tend to jump out when the tension is less, but braid stay well and lighter for distance. I wonder why all the posts I read suggest mono main line.

I use centerpin reel on spinning rod, baitcast rod, fly rod, spey rod and centerpin rod. All cast well. However, I prefer mount the reel at the top end of the grip. It feels much lighter to cast and hold.
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: milo on December 10, 2019, 03:17:47 PM
Better yet, just throw that pin out and grab a level wind ;D. *Ducks for cover*

Exactly what I did. It wasn't because I couldnt' cast it. It's just that without a multiplier, those long casts take FOREVER to retrieve. More time retrieving = less time fishing.
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: firstlight on December 10, 2019, 05:02:41 PM
I also quit the pin after a few seasons.
The Calcutta was just so much easier and i figure i get 1/3 more casts in at the end of the day.
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: Animal Chin on December 11, 2019, 10:15:46 AM
I also quit the pin after a few seasons.
The Calcutta was just so much easier and i figure i get 1/3 more casts in at the end of the day.

Yeah, I kinda came to the same conclusion this salmon season. Like the pin, but think I'll just stick with it for less crowded applications.. it's also really annoying fishing beside a pin user when in lineup conditions, they retrieve at half the speed. Great for bar fishing though if you don't need a lot of weight.
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: lapa on December 11, 2019, 12:59:59 PM
I also quit the pin after a few seasons.
The Calcutta was just so much easier and i figure i get 1/3 more casts in at the end of the day.
    I think, you didn't get to proper combo. I had the same feeling with Sage 3113mb and Talisman. Casting was short and I was done after two hours. Later, I switched to 3113lb and Kingfisher.I improved my distance and was able to fish a few more hours.
Now I fish 4106llb with Manx.  I can cast across the river and fish all day without any issues. Yes, retrieving is slower compare to bait casting . You make less cast but it is fishing not casting tournament.  Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: armytruck on December 11, 2019, 01:16:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9V4l1bEgy0&list=WL&index=52&t=134s
 ;)
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: Hike_and_fish on December 12, 2019, 04:05:06 PM
I prefer my pin for the Chilliwack river during Steelhead season. I use my bait caster for island systems and the Chehalis. I find the casting accuracy the best with a levelwind. Also, when your in a tight spot with little to no room to cast a pin, a bait casting setup is supreme. When it comes to distance, I feel no need to cast to the other bank. That's a recipe for a lost fish.
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: jim on December 14, 2019, 08:29:04 AM
I used a Silex for years back in the 1982 to 1995 era. the trick is to load the rod up real good on the backcast. let your finger off of the spool rim before the forecast.  You might have to use shears to cut the brush behind you.
 my reel is mounted low on the rod, and it might help with distance as the entire length of rod is used, all 10' 6". This makes it a 2 handed rod, not suitable for chain smokers in salmon season.
 start with 35 gram leads, then 30 gram, then trim down to 25 grams.
 thinnest oil you can get if bushing reel.
 
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: obie1fish on December 15, 2019, 11:28:15 AM
While one can get more casts from a high gear ratio baitcaster, my real reward is when the float goes down and I get to enjoy the feel of a single action reel in a fight. It's the same in the ocean between the two types of salmon reels- the feel is  so much better when fighting a salmon (or halibut!) on a single action reel. Levelwinds can retrieve faster, but to me the feel just is not as satisfying.
Title: Re: How far can centerpin cast reach
Post by: standalone on December 23, 2019, 12:58:29 PM
pin is enough for vedder river. but it will never match the casting distance as baitcasting/spinning.