Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: top fuel on December 27, 2019, 11:03:42 AM
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Didn't hear if there was one this year. Only reports one way or another
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Looked it up on-line and heard only one fish was weighed in.
Winning fish and weight was about 10.5 lbs.
Sounds like it may have been caught mid river.
Dano
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Only 1 fish weighed in 10.66 I think.
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Does the one fish take all the prizes? 1st,2nd and third place?
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Hmmmm...looks like maybe the same fish was entered into the Wally Hall Jr. Derby too.. ?
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Also heard the fish was netted by someone. Maybe my smelly socks but Think the rules say unassisted. Does netting count? Dunno. Not that it matters now.
Well how would anyone know... if this is just hearsay...?
I would think that netting counts if it is netted by the angler that has caught the fish..
The rules clearly state that 'the fish must be caught and landed by the contestant alone'
I doubt they would get 1st 2nd and 3rd prizes... but may have gotten both Heaviest fish caught prize... plus First fish caught prize?
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From the rules ... https://chilliwackfishandgame.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Boxing-Day-Steelhead-Derby-Rules-2019.pdf
Trophies will be awarded in the following order:
1. Heaviest fish weighed in (King Fish Trophy)
2. First fish weighed in
3. 2nd heaviest fish weighed in
4. 3rd heaviest fish weighed in
5. 4th heaviest fish weighed in
6. 5th heaviest fish weighed in
7. Smallest fish weighed in
Trophy winners will be given their CHOICE OF ONE PRIZE in addition to the trophy in the above order.
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Anyone know how many entered?
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The rules clearly state that 'the fish must be caught and landed by the contestant alone'
Who cares if someone else handled the net? It's tough enough as it is, as evidenced by the lack of fish the last couple of years.
Reminds me of the episode of Two Men and Their Fishing Rods where they go salmon fishing in Nanaimo with the Tyee club... they've got all sorts of arcane rules to make your life as difficult as possible, including requiring anglers to paddle around the ocean in a rowboat for their catch to "count". Sheesh ::)
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I didn't write 'em.
But Hahahahaha.... sure just ignore the rules... who cares.... pfffft
If ya don't like the regs... don't play the game
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Our fishing, both on the Vedder and Fraser, have been screwed. Never thought I'd see the day.
Shameful.
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IMO if the fish is close enough to net then it should count.
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Anyone know how many entered?
313 anglers
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I dunno my last derby weigh in I wouldn't let my buddy tail it just to be sure. Identified it was a hatch before sliding it up on shore. All by myself. Although if you hooked it and fight it and say don't get around as well due to age or handycap of some sort is it really so bad to get help? Or for safety in a tuff spot. High banks. Rocks. Hazards etc. That being said I lost a huge hatch once when a young fellow asked to help land it only to have it rap his leg and snap my leader. I prefer landing myself so I can trust my own judgement unless circumstances call for assistance.
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There were rumors of the derby winner's fish being tailed by another angler. IF this is in fact true, technically, it would be a violation of derby rule #8.
"All fish must be caught and landed by the contestant alone. No snagged fish."
I was not 100% sure of how this rule was meant to be interpreted, specifically the word "landed." So, I emailed the CFGPA and got this response:
"The historical interpretation of Rule #8 has been literal, "All fish must be caught and landed by the contestant alone." Meaning without assistance from anyone else."
However, the person who responded to my email was also careful to point out:
"Regarding the post-event allegation of the angler having assistance to land his fish and his subsequent eligibility for entering that fish into the derby, I would refer you and all others concerned to Derby Rule #12: "In the case of a dispute, the Chairman's ruling will be final. Any protest must be in the hand of the Chairman, in writing, by 2:15 pm Derby Day."
So, since there was no dispute in writing before the time stated, the fish wins fair and square.
Personally, I think rule #8 should be changed to allow another angler to tail/net your fish if it seems pragmatic under the circumstances (as mikeyman pointed out, hazards and so on) Maybe you have a bad hip and can't quickly squat down like that, maybe you swore it was a hatchery so you skid it up on the sand only to see an adipose fin. Another set of hands almost always helps when it comes to a good release.
But for anyone still wondering, as the boxing day rules currently stand you are supposed to do everything on your own, including tail/net/bonk a hatchery fish.
Well how would anyone know... if this is just hearsay...?
I would think that netting counts if it is netted by the angler that has caught the fish..
The rules clearly state that 'the fish must be caught and landed by the contestant alone'
I doubt they would get 1st 2nd and 3rd prizes... but may have gotten both Heaviest fish caught prize... plus First fish caught prize?
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Thanks Spawn Sack, for filling us in on what the organizers had to say!
Personally, I think rule #8 should be changed to allow another angler to tail/net your fish if it seems pragmatic under the circumstances (as mikeyman pointed out, hazards and so on) Maybe you have a bad hip and can't quickly squat down like that, maybe you swore it was a hatchery so you skid it up on the sand only to see an adipose fin. Another set of hands almost always helps when it comes to a good release.
I agree wholeheartedly. If you can do it safely on your own, then do it on your own. If a dangerous river bank or bad hip requires you to ask a friend to net/tail the fish then do whatever's reasonable. So long as you're not doing anything outrageous (like passing the rod to another person with a fish on) then allowing reasonable help seems like common sense to me.
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I honestly think that rule is there so others aren't passing fish off they didn't catch. Maybe a non derby entry to a buddy who is in.