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Title: 2022 Fraser River Mouth Sockeye Opening?
Post by: Jacobleboe on March 18, 2022, 09:27:48 PM
Being the 4 year mark since the last big sockeye run in 2018 the numbers forecasted so far are looking fairly decent. Wondering what the speculation is out there is and if we should be expecting a sockeye opening this year in the sandheads or Fraser River mouth area.
Comment your thoughts.
Title: Re: 2022 Fraser River Mouth Sockeye Opening?
Post by: mikeyman on March 19, 2022, 08:05:10 PM
Don't hold your breath. Dfo will probably keep it shut down all of August then allow many nets in the river again.
Title: Re: 2022 Fraser River Mouth Sockeye Opening?
Post by: Wiseguy on March 19, 2022, 08:32:35 PM
If DFO allows a sockeye opening for the recreational fishery this summer it will be after the native fishery then commercial fisheries gets first dibs on the bounty. If there is a bounty. Be an interesting summer to see how this plays out.
Title: Re: 2022 Fraser River Mouth Sockeye Opening?
Post by: Fish Assassin on March 19, 2022, 09:10:55 PM
With the cost of gas, who can afford to drive out to the valley for 2 sockeyes ?
Title: Re: 2022 Fraser River Mouth Sockeye Opening?
Post by: Darko on March 19, 2022, 09:28:30 PM
With the cost of gas, who can afford to drive out to the valley for 2 sockeyes ?

For newbies like myself, who haven't done it 100 times, it is very exciting even though the fishery has its problems.
Title: Re: 2022 Fraser River Mouth Sockeye Opening?
Post by: Easywater on March 20, 2022, 01:14:31 PM
Almost definitely be an opening in the marine area - river maybe not.

I am optimistic that there will be a river opening as I believe that the Alaska marine environment has improved over the last few years.

Have fished the Fraser for Sockeye several times since around 2006 - last season (2018) was decent.
Back in the earlier days, there was so much netting in the river that you had to time your fishing around the openings (they cleaned out the river).

2018 Non-tidal opening: https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=211498&ID=all

2018 The general notice: https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=211312&ID=all
Retention of Sockeye in marine and in-river recreational fisheries began on August 1 and 7, 2018, respectively


Title: Re: 2022 Fraser River Mouth Sockeye Opening?
Post by: ynot on March 20, 2022, 03:02:32 PM
the late run in 2018 was lower than forcast at the spawning grounds that might be a reason  to curtail the catch but the test fishery will tell the story.

day MA models overestimated the observed %DBE. The Summer run sockeye escapement
(1,749,000 sockeye, Table 9) exceeded the in-season spawning escapement target of 1,640,000
sockeye (Table 12). For Late run, the upstream timing MA model predicted a %DBE of -20%
(using the final Mission 50% date of September 17th) which was similar to the observed %DBE of
-19%. The spawning escapement for Late run of 1,585,000 sockeye (Table 9) was lower than the
in-season spawning escapement target of 1,880,000 sockeye (Table 12).
Title: Re: 2022 Fraser River Mouth Sockeye Opening?
Post by: RalphH on April 03, 2022, 06:36:13 PM
I think if there is an opening for Adams River sockeye it will be in the saltwater not the river. If there is an opening above Mission it would happen later but before the IFS window.
Title: Re: 2022 Fraser River Mouth Sockeye Opening?
Post by: armytruck on April 04, 2022, 10:02:29 AM
Would also depend on how many Fraser River bound Socks are intercepted by the Alaskan commercials . No?.  :-\
Title: Re: 2022 Fraser River Mouth Sockeye Opening?
Post by: wildmanyeah on April 04, 2022, 11:37:55 AM
I think if there is an opening for Adams River sockeye it will be in the saltwater not the river. If there is an opening above Mission it would happen later but before the IFS window.

sounds like in river could open around August 23
Title: Re: 2022 Fraser River Mouth Sockeye Opening?
Post by: MetalAndFeathers on April 04, 2022, 12:09:35 PM
Unpopular opinion but Hopefully DFO will let them spawn  ;D Wild Fraser sockeye have been abused for many years from all parties and the Shuswap lake rainbows are suffering the consequences. Sure license and bouncing betty sales will be down but the increased hatchery chinook on the vedder might make up for that?