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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: dobrolub on August 26, 2023, 12:39:57 PM

Title: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: dobrolub on August 26, 2023, 12:39:57 PM
I feel like I am not getting the casting distance with my acculite 902MFS. I don't think even the 12g lures load it enough to get good distance. I would love to hear suggestions from more experienced fisherman.
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: Phronesis on August 26, 2023, 01:02:41 PM
What type of mainline do you use ? Use a light braid - around 15lb should give enough casting distance....
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: dobrolub on August 26, 2023, 01:25:50 PM
Using braid, but perhaps heavier than 15lb. May be 30... matters much?
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: Roderick on August 26, 2023, 01:54:37 PM
Twice the diameter, half the distance. Plus a full spool makes a big difference. 
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: Phronesis on August 26, 2023, 02:07:40 PM
Whats the distance you get...i get approx 25-30 meters on 20 lb braid using gibbs delta spoon 3/8 oz
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: dobrolub on August 26, 2023, 02:23:23 PM
probably 20 meters with 12g spoon.
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: Jelly_ on August 26, 2023, 02:39:30 PM
How can you tell if a spinning reel is suitable for saltwater? I'm not sure if my spinning rod is designed for saltwater.  :-[
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: RalphH on August 26, 2023, 03:36:58 PM
10lb Braid vs 10lb Mono:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4PyedD4MEk

10 Braid vs 20lb braid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlZCVZFbTzA


My own limited experience was that 30lb powerpro provided 20 to 30%or more over 15lb mono.

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How can you tell if a spinning reel is suitable for saltwater? I'm not sure if my spinning rod is designed for saltwater.

hard to tell unless it says it's corrosion resistant on the rod, but I'd say it matters far more for a reel, especially a spinning reel than a rod. Rinse the rod after use.
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: dobrolub on August 26, 2023, 03:49:28 PM
10 Braid vs 20lb Mono

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlZCVZFbTzA
Thanks, great vids. The intro here is 10lb braid vs 20 braid.
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: RalphH on August 26, 2023, 03:54:56 PM
yup! that's what it is - fixed my post
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: Wade on August 26, 2023, 04:11:15 PM
A few main factors impacting casting distance:

1. Rod length: Most of 9ft rods should be able to meet the needs for coho and pinks for our local beaches
2. Line diameter: thinner line makes longer casts, power pro 15lb braid is the most commonly used here for spinning setup
3. Spinning reel: try to have a full spool, that gives you less friction between the main line and the spool, making it easier for the line to come off. Also need to find the reel that balances your rod well, not the lighter the better.
4: Number of guides on your rod: less guides means less friction, and thus longer casting distance
5: Lure weight: need to find the right weight for your rod action, I haven’t tried a whole bunch of rods but I find that 2/5oz - 1/2oz is kind of the sweet spot range for most salmon spinning rods here on our market. Also the shape of the lure is key, I find that the Kastmaster by ACME tackle is the best casting lure, gives longer distance than any other spoons.
6: Rod action: I personally prefer medium fast or medium action rod that bends well with a good backbone, Gloomis E6X 9ft 4-10lb is a perfect example and is the most easily accessible rod here on our local market, easy 100ft cast with 2/5 - 1/2oz spoons. It can cast 3/4oz but just doesn’t have that power to launch for further distances.
7: Casting form: side cast with low trajectory when casting against headwind

My setup for effortless 200ft+ casting:
Rod: 2022Shimano Exsence Infiniti 10ft (with 8 guides)
Reel: 2022 Shimano Stella 3000MHG
Line: 20lb Seaguar 8x braid (about the same diameter with 5lb power pro)
Lure: 3/4 oz Kastmaster spoon with hoochie

All that said, distance doesn’t always give your more fish, where you stand on the beach is way more important 😅
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: dobrolub on August 27, 2023, 09:30:52 AM
whoa :) that's one expensive setup 8)
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: norm_2 on August 27, 2023, 11:54:52 AM
Wade, thanks for your write-up.  Useful info.
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: standalone on August 29, 2023, 01:32:00 PM
should be at least 40 meters if no wind. longer the rod longer the distance. 6'6" is long enough. 20 or 30 lbs braided line.
Title: Re: Spinning rod for ocean pinks and coho
Post by: Darko on August 29, 2023, 01:42:40 PM
I used my 11 ft Daiwa Presso Ultralight rated 2-6 lb with 12 lb braid and had a good casting range and with the backbone of the rod could land pinks in a couple minutes. Very happy with the rod. Cost me 150$ total on amazon.