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[fishinmansam]

Yeah guys this is totally true. Last year I was down at hunter creek mouth in early september. What i couldn't believe was the amount of sockey's i saw there. SPAWNING in the creek bed. Not common.

[catfish]

Chin up BH123!
   I'm on your side. Everyone has their opinion and are entitled to it but remember one thing, if the DFO are really concerned about the future of salmon they'll shut down salmon farming as that's a far bigger threat than the sport fisherman...

cheers...catfish

[kingpin]

how about stopping the netting before  bottom bouncing? the real problem with the decline in early stuart run fish is over netting. The dfo has asked anglers to use selective angling methods, it isnt a law not to bottom bounce. many guides depend on bottom bouncing season for living and all this revenue from it goes back into the fish stocks, basically there is a huge amount of money coming in with guiding, licences and tackle from bottom bouncing that is actually helping stocks.

[Floater]

Good point kingpin, its pretty sad how we as sports fishermen are so quick to rag on each other when there is greater and ILLEGAL! threats to all the salmon.

[mikethesportsfisher]

good post kingpin!

Mike <")))))><

[fishinmansam]

kingpin thats a great post man. so true.

[Coho Cody]

very well said kingpin. and also very true.

[Eagleye]

many guides depend on bottom bouncing season for living and all this revenue from it goes back into the fish stocks, basically there is a huge amount of money coming in with guiding, licences and tackle from bottom bouncing that is actually helping stocks.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it is my understanding that the monies from licences go to general revenue and only 1 dollar of the salmon conservation surcharge stamp goes to helping the fish. Now that's an underhanded rip off!!!  IMO this is a huge problem.  If all the licensce money went to habitat improvements and beefing up enforcement we wouldn't be at the mercy of lacking federal fudning.  I also don't see how tackle sales are gonna help fish stocks, just the economy.

[fishinfever]

Something i've been thinking about. Before they dredged the Frazer to speed up the flow so the sediment would be takin out to sea. A large area of land was covered in water that slowly drained back through the maze of shallows  into the main current. wouldn't that large area of slow moving shallow water have warmed up considerably.
 Seems if my understanding of the area and volume is even close to correct that this would have warmed up the water alot.  Of course this would have effected only the Frazer valley, but with many areas up stream draining land through ditches etc. the water may actually be colder now than years ago.
 I must be way off in my thinking, somebody straighten me out. ( i'm not saying global warming isn't happening just thinking about the Frazer river)

Just thinking about it not attacking any position thanks.

Opps maybe this should have been in discussion forum.

[Eagleye]

Just read this on DFO's site:

Q. In the recreational fishery anglers are of the view that they already

contribute proportionately more money than other sectors through licence

fees and provincial taxes that they feel should be directed to pay for

monitoring and reporting. Will these funds be directed to these programs,

and will existing financial resources from DFO continue to fund creel

surveys? Will this cost recreational harvesters more money?

A. Current commercial and recreational licence fees do not fund monitoring and

reporting programs in fisheries. These fees represent a return to the public from

the harvesters for the privilege of access to a public resource and as such the

licence fees go directly to general revenue in the Government of Canada.

Where fisheries are undertaken, monitoring and reporting programs are essential

to ensure the continuation and sustainability of the resource. It only makes

sense that those who benefit from these fisheries and not the general public

should pay the costs involved. The department's intention is that all sport and

commercial monitoring and reporting costs will eventually be self-funded by the

harvesters. This will increase the cost of fishing to recreational fishers and some

commercial fishers.

The department is investigating whether sport fish licence fees can be used to

collect additional money to fund these programs.