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Re: ambassadeur 5500c3 button stuck down; is there a fix
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2005, 12:07:47 AM »

Mike's Reel Repair. Unfortunately they're located in Abbotsford.
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Re: ambassadeur 5500c3 button stuck down; is there a fix
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2005, 12:14:34 AM »

They actually do the warranty even if bought at a different store/in the states?

Thnx,  would probably be easier than heading south of the border to RMA.
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Re: ambassadeur 5500c3 button stuck down; is there a fix
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2005, 12:17:17 AM »

Stryker Rod and Reel is an authorized ABU warranty center in Surrey.

Price list for service: http://www.rodandreel.ca/services.html

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Re: ambassadeur 5500c3 button stuck down; is there a fix
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2005, 12:24:56 AM »

Excellent.  Even better  :)
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Re: ambassadeur 5500c3 button stuck down; is there a fix
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2007, 07:01:35 AM »

I realize this is an older topic, but there is no resolution, on the thread, except the usual light-hearted banter about buying a different make of reel, take it to a service center, etc.
With the new season either on, or fast approaching depending on where one lives, this will come up again.
Of the thousands and thousands of Abus fishing, this scenario does come up, but not s often, as some would make out.
There are four main causes of the problem. Not in any order:
a warped side plate.
lack of lubrication to the clutch arm, and the casting trigger.
normal wear and tear to the clutch arm.
lack of, or unbalanced spring pressure from the position holder.
In the image of the clutch arm, the guy opted to fix his by altering the radius where this part contacts the brake plate post. The usual fix is a slight "re-bend" of the very end of this part... that little 90 degree'er out there. Over time, the tip wears, and does not engage the driveshaft teeth too well. The re-radius does much the same thing: permits the clutch arm to come away easier. 
The clutch arm is inexpensive, if re-worked past the point of useability..either by a bad re-radius, or a real bad re-bend of the tip.
The tip only needs the bend, not the main part of the arm. It needs to stay flat along the brake plate.  They are about 4-6 dollars. I normally do not re-radius, just bend. Haven't lost one yet. 
The position holder is also an inexpensive part, and if ruined in tension adjustment trials, costs about 5.00, or less. I have new on hand, and if I wreck the already wrecked old, on goes the new. The two stainless steel "prongs" will have too much, or unequal pressure preventing the clutch arm from coming back out. It's trial and error to get the right tension on each arm, of the right pressure. New is better. But it's nice to do a fix for ones'self.
These I have lost. Maybe 2 or 3 over the past 10 years. Hope this helps. Best, KD


« Last Edit: June 03, 2007, 07:13:59 AM by Ken D »
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Re: ambassadeur 5500c3 button stuck down; is there a fix
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2007, 07:46:22 AM »

My alltime fav reel from abu is the 6500 c4. Never had a problem with the abu's except the pawls. But that is normal wear and tear. I clean and lubricate about 3 times per season and no probs
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Re: ambassadeur 5500c3 button stuck down; is there a fix
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2007, 07:59:26 AM »

The C4's very nice!!. Pretty colour, too. The downside would be heavy hauling, using the winch style of fishing, rather than the pump and crank, as the tranny's 6.3-1. Very fast, but in the wrong hands, not too good with bigger fish.
We have sportsters up this way, that compromise a transmission in 2 years or less.
Also, they tear the grips and posts right off the handle stay...a pretty good indicator of winch style fishing. Not just make them loose, they are torn right off.
They do this with the flatter 'paddle' style of handle. Even the older 'roundy' grips come away, but more so the paddle style.
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Re: ambassadeur 5500c3 button stuck down; is there a fix
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2007, 08:14:02 AM »

I could see your point but i love that thing hauled in plenty of springs last year with ease and i don't jump in the boat and chase them down i always play them to the beach. Haven't even had to replace the pawl and worm gear yet. I had a 6 star series for 10 years and replaced the pawl about 10 times a season and the worm drive 5 times a season.
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Re: ambassadeur 5500c3 button stuck down; is there a fix
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2007, 11:31:37 AM »

Its the new ones that are crap. I got mine from back in the day in 1997. I replaced all plastic and worn out parts in 2001 and haven't had a single problem. Drag is still silky smooth and I still haul in the big ones with it. My dad gave me his older 6500 aswell its a 92 model he replaced all plastics in 1999 and i use it for flossing sockeye, or float fishing/casting to springs at creek mouths.   I personally have had problem with the c4's and like like my c3's in 4600, 5500, 6500. If it aint broke don't fix it. Just lubricate it and clean it.

Abu garcia are great reals when they work! And the old ones are super reliable, but lately they've gone cheep on materials and thats what is creating problems

But i wouldn't mind owning a couple diawa luna's but the fact that they are 350 dollars doesn't fit my budget to well so i'm gonna stick with my abu's. 
« Last Edit: June 03, 2007, 11:35:14 AM by younggun »
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Re: ambassadeur 5500c3 button stuck down; is there a fix
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2007, 11:42:40 AM »

The fraser has super fine silt and that gets into the gears and acts like a file and just grinds them down to nothing!
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Re: ambassadeur 5500c3 button stuck down; is there a fix
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2007, 12:11:19 PM »

The fraser has super fine silt and that gets into the gears and acts like a file and just grinds them down to nothing!

Makes me wonder why people lay their rod and reel in the water when they're taking a picture of the fish they just caught. Can't be good for the reels.
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Re: ambassadeur 5500c3 button stuck down; is there a fix
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2007, 12:44:08 PM »

The early Abus from the mid-60's used a 3.X-1 ratio. Later, when the stacked (drag) array "ultracast" type came out, Abu decided to make a winch set of gears, for them.
There are still 4 ratios possible...for the ultracast types:
Winch (3.8-1), Euro (4.7-1) Standard (5.3-1) and Hi-speed (6.3-1) 
The Euro style is pretty rare, but it fishes vey nicely, using a gearset from the pre-ultracast days, with the little line-out clicker feature, like the 7000's.
A nice little "mod" for some reels of today is: revert back to the brake plate from the low 80's...note that it's all-metal.
Compare this brake plate to the one I posted a few up.
The older one has 3 direct springs to help bring back the cast button, and: 2 trip levers, all same like the pre-2006 7000's.
It's only good for a few model reels, due to the height of the drive-shaft post. Unless one's really into wild-catting, and has tools to modify the post's height.
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Re: ambassadeur 5500c3 button stuck down; is there a fix
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2007, 02:00:57 PM »

there is only one reel i might replace my c4 with and that is the original made in the first couple of years they came out calcutta. My buddy has had one for about 6 years now never ever taken it apart and cleaned it or greased it just a couple of dabs of oil on his pawl maybe a couple times a season. He has never replaced the pawl or worm gear or has had it break down on him works just like it did when he first bought it.
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