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toytank

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bait help
« on: November 07, 2007, 08:40:32 PM »

hi again so can anyone tell me what coho like i tried spin casting and nothing >:( iv tried float fishing and nothing >:( tomorow im trying fly fishing any pointers would be great ::)

so what lure do i use for spin   :'(
and bait for float  :'(
most inportant what fly  ??? ??? ???

again thank you for all the help!!
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Re: bait help
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2007, 08:51:01 PM »

For spinning, I like to use my Avatar picture or I've had great success with Blue Fox spinners in the following colours.  You have to change the trebles off of them and put on the single siwash or I like to use longer and larger Gamakatsu to ensure a better hook-up rate.
 

Not my pic, but cured roe presented like this on a hook with a 2 foot leader is a good way to catch them.  Use an egg loop knot (google search for it if you are unsure) to tie the hook on.  Make sure hooks are barbless too.  You will want some weight above the leader and use a float.



For flies, a wolly bugger or even a mickey finn are decent starting patterns

 

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Re: bait help
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2007, 09:40:01 PM »

Remeber to pinch your barb too...Not like in the roe picture ;D
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Re: bait help
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2007, 09:57:34 PM »

thank you for all your help  :D  im new to maple ridge what are some good i mean great areas to fish ??
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Re: bait help
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2007, 06:06:36 AM »

Toytank, I found this US fishing website a few weeks back. They have some good videos on line including how to tie eggloops, I found that one fairly helpful myself.

http://www.piscatorialpursuits.com/videosteach.htm

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Re: bait help
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2007, 07:01:08 AM »

I don't know about the rest of you here but if we have a new guy to fishing, I would recommend he prioritize his efforts in terms of presentation as follows:
1) spin casting hard ware
2) floating roe
3) (and lastly) fly fishing

Nothing against fly fishing but when I think of those 3 formats, then casting and the presentation of a lure is probably hardest when fly fishing.  To a degree, reading a run and naturally presenting roe under a float I think is a little easier, but if we want to get Toy Tank into a coho or two, I think a few blue fox spinners and a few crocs are the easiest tactic for some who is new to coho fishing.

Stick with your spinning rod unless you feel very comfortable reading a river and casting a fly.

Whats your experience level anyhow?

 
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Re: bait help
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2007, 09:39:01 AM »

fly fishing for about 30 years
spin  cating and float fishing mabie 3 months
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Re: bait help
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2007, 10:35:22 AM »

If your casting is good and you have the right sinking line then fly may be a good option for you. 

If you have 30 years of fly fishing experience but you are asking for input on flies  for coho in the river, then I am guessing most of your fly fishing is lake based???  I am by no means a fly fishing expert but I cant help but think that the current in a river makes presenting a fly much more difficult there than on a lake. 

I have seen coho chase both hardware and flies but I can't help but think you are going to get a much larger strike range out of a spinner or spoon compared to a fly hence I think that that is your best bet. 
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Re: bait help
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2007, 01:41:55 PM »

do we have any leeches in our river down here like the interior?? ??? ;D
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Re: bait help
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2007, 03:09:32 PM »

Yes, we definitely do, not sure how common they are, but I've seen them, particularly on the more "worn" looking chum. Colours seem to be mostly, black or dark green. I don't know how well they will work for coho. Is the woolly bugger fly in GoldHammeredCroc's post is supposed to emulate a leech, anyone?

I think that Gooey made some excellent points above, very well thought out. I'm glad I decided to join, there certainly seems to be plenty of good info on this site. I hope that I can make a few usefull contributions here and there, I will likely spend a fair bit of time mostly just looking, and asking questions. If I get something wrong, please do not leave me in ignorance of it. I have been fishing for quite a few years, off-and-on, mostly spin casting in rivers and trolling in a few of the lakes around 100 Mile House and more recently in Pitt Lake/River and Allouette Lake.  Not an expert on any of them by a long shot, but willing to learn and share what I can. Trying to learn fly fishing and drift fishing.

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Re: bait help
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2007, 04:08:42 PM »

Welcome toytank, from what I've read, presentation is a factor but I think the priority is to figure out where the fish are. By that I don't mean hot spots, but just where coho salmon are likely to rest in a river. There aren't really "hot spots", since migratory spawning salmon are constantly moving when opportunities arise. The fishing maybe fantastic at one location on one day, but it is common to find that no fish in sight on the following day.

Unlike chum and chinook salmon, which basically dominate all the main channels once they enter a system, coho salmon tend to look for heavily covered, slow water. Log jams, overhanging shaded trees, underwater logs, weeds, riffled water are some of the environmental cues that you should be looking for. Look for section of the river where current is very slow, or does not exist. In the Maple Ridge area, you may want to travel east, get a mapbook and explore several systems between your starting point and Harrison River. In fact, you are in luck as rivers in this section usually experience excellent coho salmon fishing in November.

Secondly, timing is important. Unlike other species, coho salmon are shy and usually tightlipped during the day. Best fishing, especially in low water condition, takes place during the first two hours in the morning. Heavy rainfall like what we are expecting tonight causes increase of water height and triggers mass fish movement. The river mouths are tidal influenced. Incoming tide brings fresh fish into the river. Outgoing tide can sometimes push fish downstream.

If you are flyfishing or spinning, choose slow or frog water as mentioned above. Coho salmon will follow the presentation as you retrieve/strip it in.

Good luck.

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Re: bait help
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2007, 12:24:44 AM »

thanks to all for the help ;D ;D
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