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prairiefire

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Salmon fly rod setup...advice needed
« on: April 14, 2009, 03:17:31 PM »

I just got an 8 weight fly rod for Salmon fishing and was thinking of adding a multi-tip line to it. Are these good to use? I will mainly use it on the Vedder river. I don't have a reel for it either. What would be a good choice? I have a TFO Mayfly on my 6 weight setup. Could I just add a large arbor spool to it and use it for my Salmon setup. Is the drag sufficient or not? Any advice would help.

thanks and tight lines.


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Re: Salmon fly rod setup...advice needed
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2009, 04:35:28 PM »

Rio Versa-tip is one of the most popular multi-tip lines to use on the Vedder.
It is the most effective way to hit the different water types (type 3-T8 in the lower, T8-T14 of different lengths for mid and upper). I use it successfully on my 8wt for salmon and steelhead.
If you intend to land a chum or spring then you need a reel with decent drag and lots of backing.
By decent I mean one that won't seize or jam under moderate pressure. Unless you are spending $$$$ you can't use drag alone to stop these beasts so you will need a reel with an exposed rim for palming. I used a clicker reel when I first started fishing chum and I found I as unable to provide any kind of smoothness with my just my palm on the reel.
I don't know the TFO Mayfly, but I'm guessing it is too small for the 8wt multi-tip.
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Re: Salmon fly rod setup...advice needed
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2009, 03:32:07 AM »

Thanks for the info. I was thinking about the Pflueger Trion Reel, Berry's has them on sale. They have good reviews online. I just have to hope the wife will go for it.
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Re: Salmon fly rod setup...advice needed
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2009, 07:58:01 AM »

whats the warranty like on that reel though? salmon will burn the drag out on your reel, it may take a few years but something with a lifetime warranty means no worries  ;) I bought a SAGE 1680 large arbour for $110 (at Michael & Young) and it has a good drag when you need it. only downside is that it doesnt have much drag range when adjusting it so that can be annoying sometimes LOL

just remember that you get what you pay for  ;)
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Re: Salmon fly rod setup...advice needed
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2009, 08:00:12 AM »

I use the Pfleuger Trion 1910 and landed chum over 20lbs on the Stave last fall.
The drag is decent but at the higher friction there isn't a lot of range either.
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Re: Salmon fly rod setup...advice needed
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2009, 08:24:58 AM »

The pflueger I believe comes with a one year warranty. With that being said, if you hook into a real hot fish that could trash your rod and reel, nothing wrong with pointing your rod at it and breaking it off.
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Re: Salmon fly rod setup...advice needed
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2009, 08:29:50 AM »

that is very true but if you go to the river undergunned your going to be donating flies on almost every fish which is just silly. You also dont want to be over playing your fish because your gear isnt matched for what your targetting, thats not fun for you OR the fish.

Go into your local shop(fly shop would be best) and see what they have in your price range for the type of reel your looking for and the fish your targetting.
 

just as a tip - there are lots of fly guys that just use click/pawl reels for salmon/steelhead however it does take a bit of experience to get used to palming the reel without breaking fish off or letting them run out to much line on you. Its best for a beginner/novice to get a reel with a decent drag so you can use it to slow fish down a bit. my Sage can stop a chum dead (breaks the line) but i would bet using it like that will burn it out in no time LOL the drag should be used to slow the fish not stop them, its also so that you have smooth consistent pressure to the fish and not quick jerky spurts.
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Re: Salmon fly rod setup...advice needed
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2009, 11:35:35 AM »

I was also looking at the Sage reels. They hold more backing when compared to the Pflueger reels. 200 yards vs 120 yards. Is that much of a big deal or should I go with a Trion or try a Sage 1600 or 1800 series reel.

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Re: Salmon fly rod setup...advice needed
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2009, 04:41:39 PM »

Your line for your 6 won't cast for $hit on your 8wt.  Go with a proper weight line, you'll be thankful you did.

Rio multi tips are good, I used a dragonfly kamloops larger arbor reel for a couple of seasons that had a decent disc drag, it worked just fine, cheap too.  Caught a few springs on it.  Just load whatever you have up with backing, you'll be ok. Steer clear of click pawls if youre just starting, honestly...with a big fish its fun on any drag.  Buddy of mine uses the pfleuger trion, likes it just fine also and it sees a LOT of days.
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Re: Salmon fly rod setup...advice needed
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2009, 01:31:31 PM »

Your line for your 6 won't cast for $hit on your 8wt.  Go with a proper weight line, you'll be thankful you did.

Rio multi tips are good, I used a dragonfly kamloops larger arbor reel for a couple of seasons that had a decent disc drag, it worked just fine, cheap too.  Caught a few springs on it.  Just load whatever you have up with backing, you'll be ok. Steer clear of click pawls if youre just starting, honestly...with a big fish its fun on any drag.  Buddy of mine uses the pfleuger trion, likes it just fine also and it sees a LOT of days.

For the dollar, you can not beat a Pfleuger reel--as far as backing goes how much do you really need on the Vedder--I for one would not let my $100.00 to $150.00 fly line get 200 yards away from my rod tip. The fly would always be the first to go...

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Re: Salmon fly rod setup...advice needed
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2009, 06:06:19 PM »

Not sure as I don't fish the vedder but on my bigger reels I load them as far as they'll go with good backing.  I was into it a few times pretty far on the beach a couple of years back on springs and was glad that I decided to go overboard.  Lost the fish but kept my line :)
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Re: Salmon fly rod setup...advice needed
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2009, 10:09:01 PM »

I stopped at Sea-Run today and picked up a Sage 1680 with a Rio Versi-Tip line. I can't wait to get out for some Chum-tastic action on the Vedder this Fall. Pinks are a coming too. ;D
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Re: Salmon fly rod setup...advice needed
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2009, 12:14:37 AM »

I just got an 8 weight fly rod for Salmon fishing and was thinking of adding a multi-tip line to it. Are these good to use? I will mainly use it on the Vedder river. I don't have a reel for it either. What would be a good choice? I have a TFO Mayfly on my 6 weight setup. Could I just add a large arbor spool to it and use it for my Salmon setup. Is the drag sufficient or not? Any advice would help.

thanks and tight lines.
I have a 4 piece 8 weight with a BFR reel.  I just use an 8 wt floating line (Headstart).  I bought some tungsten t-14 line and cut it to various lengths (3' for slow and shallow, 6' for 5 foot deep moderate runs and 12' for fast or deep runs);  much cheaper than buying the multi-tips and easier to customize in my opinion.  I use heavy 30 lb line to make simple loops on the ends.  It is a pretty cheap set-up and works for me on the Vedder.  I prefer to fly-fish instead of baitcasting for salmon. The only reason I loaded extra backing on my reel is because I have a small arbour and the extra backing gives it some girth so my flyline is not looped as tightly and I don't have to reel as much to bring in the line.  I have only gotten into my backing once;  I accidently snagged the back of big chum in Squamish and it took off on me before finally breaking the leader.  I don't think I have ever seen anybody on the Vedder with 200 yards of line out fighting a fish.  If they did, I think everybody around would be pretty pissed.  I have a pretty simple disc drag on my reel.  I would not rely on it to stop a salmon.  I have to palm the reel to stop the fish.  Makes for exciting fight with a single action reel.   Comparable to a centerpin.
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