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Randog

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~~~Declining Sockeye Return~~~
« on: August 09, 2009, 01:18:18 PM »

After doing a 10 year review of the Albion daily test results for Sockeye Salmon I've come to the conclusion that the decline in numbers of Sockeye returning to the Fraser river must be the result of a.) over harvesting at sea and river, b.) fish farms along our coast c.) global warming causing high water temps.
 
Heres the returning numbers results from:

July 10/00 - Aug 8/00        5,032
July 10/01 - Aug 8/01        4,297
July 10/02 - Aug 8/02        1,931
July 10/03 - Aug 8/03           112 
July 10/04 - Aug 8/04           239
July 10/05 - Aug 8/05             60
July 10/06 - Aug 8/06           339   
July 10/07 - Aug 8/07             97
July 10/08 - Aug 8/08          719
July 10/09 - Aug 8/09           275

What do you think?

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Re: ~~~Declining Sockeye Return~~~
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2009, 02:32:40 PM »

From the numbers something is happening for sure.  Sad to see that the people who are in charge of managing the stock seem to have no idea what is responsible for the decline. One other thing to consider about global warming is the negative effect the loss of the forests, plus the forest fires must be having on streams and rivers in B.C.. For instance, the fire retardants used to battle forest fires especially the amounts, have to be at an all time high. Although they are a necessary tool, they have found South of the border that they can have a negative effect on fish if they are able to leach or flow into streams and rivers. One other obstacle to prevent fish stocks in this province from recovering.
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Re: ~~~Declining Sockeye Return~~~
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2009, 03:09:27 PM »

I personally hope they close sockeye this year and enforce it strictly. They need to do what it takes to get the number back within their resources. Closing the fisheries is one of those ways perhaps.

I want to be able to fish for sockeye with my possible future children one day and at this rate there won't be much of anything other than sculpin to catch.
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Re: ~~~Declining Sockeye Return~~~
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2009, 03:17:13 PM »

After doing a 10 year review of the Albion daily test results for Sockeye Salmon I've come to the conclusion that the decline in numbers of Sockeye returning to the Fraser river must be the result of a.) over harvesting at sea and river, b.) fish farms along our coast c.) global warming causing high water temps.
 
Heres the returning numbers results from:

July 10/00 - Aug 8/00        5,032
July 10/01 - Aug 8/01        4,297
July 10/02 - Aug 8/02        1,931
July 10/03 - Aug 8/03           112 
July 10/04 - Aug 8/04           239
July 10/05 - Aug 8/05             60
July 10/06 - Aug 8/06           339   
July 10/07 - Aug 8/07             97
July 10/08 - Aug 8/08          719
July 10/09 - Aug 8/09           275

What do you think?

Thought you had moved to Alaska, no posts for 7 months.  ;D Thanks for these figures.

Mismanagement by our governments, destroying fish habitat by gravel mining in the Fraser and greed by too many people could be added to your list.

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Re: ~~~Declining Sockeye Return~~~
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2009, 04:09:53 PM »

you also have to remember that some years ago the Albion test fishery changed size of the net from 6 to 8 inch. Its more of a Chinook test fishery now. I think the cottonwood is more of a sockeye test fishery.
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Re: ~~~Declining Sockeye Return~~~
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2009, 04:33:37 PM »

Try the Whonnock Test Fishery. It drifts basically the same stretch as the Albion and is designed to catch Sockeye.


What do I think? I don't think you can sum up all the factors that effect the return of salmon to our rivers in A) B) and C). There are innumerable variables in the equation of how many fish will return.
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Re: ~~~Declining Sockeye Return~~~
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2009, 06:09:27 PM »

After doing a 10 year review of the Albion daily test results for Sockeye Salmon I've come to the conclusion that the decline in numbers of Sockeye returning to the Fraser river must be the result of a.) over harvesting at sea and river, b.) fish farms along our coast c.) global warming causing high water temps.
 
Heres the returning numbers results from:

July 10/00 - Aug 8/00        5,032
July 10/01 - Aug 8/01        4,297
July 10/02 - Aug 8/02        1,931
July 10/03 - Aug 8/03           112 
July 10/04 - Aug 8/04           239
July 10/05 - Aug 8/05             60
July 10/06 - Aug 8/06           339  
July 10/07 - Aug 8/07             97
July 10/08 - Aug 8/08          719
July 10/09 - Aug 8/09           275

What do you think?


  Look at 05, is that not the brood year for these fish this year. They were late then and I'm hoping they are late again. Not sure if there is a pattern or not but I prefer to be optimistic until all the numbers are counted.......although I guess 01 there were alot more around at this time.
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Re: ~~~Declining Sockeye Return~~~
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2009, 08:53:48 PM »

I agree with all the reasons given why stocks are declining..... to add to your list Chris (as you added extra) ... on the tv news they said the other day that experts said also the possibility of an increase of preditors THUS maybe the salmon shark & humbolt squid seals etc..... may be factors.  (humbolt squid have affected the amount of fish off southern coasts...... 1000 salmon shark in Prince William Sound right now ...July & Aug. ..... these salmon shark are also in BC waters ) Humbolt squid as reported also have moved into our waters. ---- Preditors have always been around but report said they are increasing in numbers-----
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Re: ~~~Declining Sockeye Return~~~
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2009, 09:15:44 PM »

Chris,

Alaska..... I wish, Bristol Bay has a record run of 33.8 MILLION Sockeye returning, you can bet that they never swam past the fish farm net pens.

Gravel removal and greed are one in the same it seems.

Hope the Bar rods treating you good, clang clang clang.

Cheers,
R.