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chris gadsden

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Re: New Fish Farm association AD ....
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2011, 05:24:55 PM »

Hello,

I have taken a look at what is happening with salmon feedlots around the world and have posted my findings at our new blog http://farmsalmonfacts.blogspot.com/

The industry is facing enormous legal, social and biological issues around the world as a result of their aggressive expansion into the temperate coastlines of our planet.   Their issues with the European Union, Prince of Wales, a virus that is following them and the lobster fishermen of New Brunswick are so huge that British Columbia  has become the stronghold for this Norwegian industry.  If they can't expand in BC, their shareholders are going to walk away.

As politics in BC heat up, the industry paid a reported $1.5 million for an advertising campaign featuring prime time TV ads that offer zero information (Marketing Magazine, 19 Jan). The bottom of their fact page lists five companies all with their head offices in Norway and the BC Salmon Farmers Association, whose board members include the same five companies   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86rCXZETiNY

I agree, no one should believe everything they hear.  Inform yourself, the future of this coast is depending on you. Take a look at the global picture of these global corporations.

I will be posting articles from around the world at: http://farmsalmonfacts.blogspot.com/  so you can follow what people are saying about this industry around the world.

FYI - I am still collecting signatures to send to the Minister of Fisheries telling her we want farm salmon tested for the virus that appears to be killing millions of Fraser sockeye at https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dEtNMExpVGpXZ2U4R3J1dFdhQVJxU3c6MQ

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Re: New Fish Farm association AD ....
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2011, 09:14:41 PM »

There is no organic standard for farmed salmon.  
Yup, and that kinda makes it's own point doesn't it? 

Also kinda hard to have an "organic standard" when for anything else including shellfish, to get that label would require raising it without using pesticides, antibiotics, and using organically derived feed, as well as not degrading the environment they are raised in, plus a host of other issues.  Don't worry though the industry is still trying to get that label despite the those issues, cause everybody likes to see that "organic" label when buying stuff.

I've also only ever seen studies that show the levels of chemicals like PCB's etc being higher in farmed fish than wild caught, and it makes sense based on how the fish are raised.  If I ran a farm wouldn't it be in my best interest to publicly prove that my fish doesn't contain higher levels of these known carcinogens? Or to show that my fish is antibiotic and chemical free?   I guess the best way to prove the fish aren't highly medicated like all that "misinformation" is to withhold that data from the public, or to just say they aren't.  An even better idea I guess would be to not allow testing for any of the suspected viruses that may be causing the salmon crisis, cause if you don't test for it, it's not there :) . http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Dead+fish+swimming+virus+hurting+Pacific+salmon/4104876/story.html

And while true salmon aren't dyed in the sense of being dipped in food coloring or a chemical, the feed is supplemented with what the FDA calls a "color additive", though in Europe they do call it a dye...hmmm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astaxanthin "The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved astaxanthin as a food coloring (or color additive) for specific uses in animal and fish foods.[8] The European Commission considers it food dye and it is given the E number E161j.[9]" It is pretty cool though that they can make that "food additive" from petrochemicals now, without having to use krill ;)

So I guess your trying to say it isn't dying something if you feed it to them instead of dipping them in it? 

But yup, it must be "just not true"  cause you said so, not cause you actually backed anything up with facts or scientific papers backing up those claims.  ;D
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Re: New Fish Farm association AD ....
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2011, 10:44:17 AM »

--Water cooler advert is great...problem is for the Fish Farm association everyone I have shown it to thinks it is an advert against salmon farming.
--In any case when given a choice.... I don't buy feedlot beef over grass fed nor farmed over wild caught salmon... from a sustainable population.
--There are issues with each.... we are well aware of past sins... over fishing or so called wild fish which are from 100% hatchery sustained stock unreported by-catch etc..
--I can only try.. the cost of energy... fuel etc per pound of wild fish produced.. for some is as significant as any issue with farmed salmon.

--If you want to impress me.... spend the money on research.. admit significant problems and show what is being done to correct them.   
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Re: New Fish Farm association AD ....
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2011, 11:23:16 AM »

--Water cooler advert is great...problem is for the Fish Farm association everyone I have shown it to thinks it is an advert against salmon farming.

LOL!   That was my reaction when I saw it for the first time. I've heard from friends that thought it was an anti farmed salmon commercial.

I wonder when the salmon farmers will realize that their $1.4 million is backfiring on them.....    ;D
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