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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2011, 10:08:31 PM »

The salmon regulations of Chilliwack River and daily quota of each salmon species can be found in Region 2 of the Freshwater salmon supplement.

You can only keep FOUR salmon in total per day, which means if you keep four hatchery coho salmon, you can't keep anymore chinook, pink or chum salmon.

lol captain of the obvious strikes again
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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2011, 10:44:49 PM »

Today marked the sixth day to the Chilliwack River in the past two weeks, which is probably the most I've fished in a long time. It seems like a lot, but when the fishing is this good, one better take advantage of it because it's only going to last for a few more weeks.

After our trip on Tuesday, we didn't expect to come again because I thought the river was going to keep rising. The weather forecast took a different turn and suddenly the river has dropped to optimal level once again. Seeing some reports of great catches yesterday, I was confident that we would see some fish today. Originally Nina was going to be behind the camera today so we could put together a float fishing video feature, but she picked up a cold and decided to stay home. :-\ Instead, I asked if my dad would like to go one more time before his annual visit to Vancouver ends next week. He of course was glad to tag along. To date, he had yet to land a hatchery marked coho salmon from the Chilliwack River. After numerous attempts since 2004, something always went wrong. The timing was wrong, the bite was off, the fish popped off, or like last Tuesday, it was a wild fish.

Shane, who also has had bad luck on Vedder coho, decided to join us as well. We arrived at the meeting spot just after 6:00am since we had a long walk to the chosen spot. I suggested that we should go back to where my dad and I caught some fish on Tuesday. The run seemed pretty nice on Tuesday when the water was higher, but upon our arrival, I was a bit skeptical. With water level slightly lower, the run seemed to be a bit too fast for my liking. Personally, I really like to fish in slow moving flow where coho salmon can hold. It also makes float watching much more easily. It was too late to change the plan as we were so close to first light, so our only option was to give this run a chance.

Once it was bright enough, we started with floating some pink salmon roe. The first thirty minutes or so was very quiet. I could see some anglers in nearby runs where water was slower landing some coho salmon. My only hope is that as the day went on, perhaps fish would move from slower to faster parts of the river. The bite usually comes on a bit later, so I was not too worried.

After working through the run and figuring out exactly how deep all the spots are, I finally saw a couple of silver backs finning a bit further out from where we had been drifting. Excited, I rebaited and sent the float out to the lane. The first few drifts produced nothing, but there was finally a good take at the end of a drift. I gave it a good strike and the hard kicks on the rod suggested a coho salmon was at the end of the line. My dad quickly came over to see. The fish was guided into the shallow pretty fast. Perhaps almost too fast, because suddenly the hook popped out right in front of us.

That was not exactly a good sign. It was actually the second bad sign of the day. The first one was the big skunk crossing the road in front of me just when I pulled the car out from my driveway at 5:00am. :-\

Seeing a fish being hooked always motivates everyone. It made us focus more on our floats. My dad was the next one to hook up. This fish must have grabbed his bait while he was retrieving it because I didn't even see a hook-set. It was a massive coho salmon, one of the biggest one that he has ever hooked for sure. The fish did a few acrobatic rolls in front of us. Like the first fish, it also came into the shallow water very fast. Before I had a chance to instruct what he should do to guide the fish in, the hook also suddenly popped out. My dad let out a disappointing moan, the one that all of us have made when we feel that dreadful pop.

With two fish involuntarily released back to the river, we were getting a bit frustrated. My float disappeared once again soon after. This time, a much smaller fish could be felt. It was a coho jack, which came to my hand pretty fast. A hatchery marked fish it was. Dad suggested that we should keep it. I said that maybe today I would encounter four adult coho salmon. He said fat chance, so onto the beach this fish went as a consolation prize. :P



A few minutes after the kill, I could hear a loud hook-set at the top of the run. It was Shane, who held his drift rod high to keep the line tight. Splashes could be seen right in front of him, which indicated that it was another coho salmon. Both my dad and I quickly went upstream to lend him a hand. It turned out to be a wild coho salmon so it swam away freely after a photo or two.



After several bites in a row, it became quiet again. Shane started to wander off as he dislikes fishing at the same spot all the time. My dad and I remained at the same run, hoping for more fish to move in. Eventually I went up to the top of the run where Shane hooked his first fish. After a couple of drift, the float shot underneath the surface. It went down so fast, so it was unlikely a snag. I set the hook and my entire float rig flew back to me because it was already so close to the bank. I quickly put some new bait on, cast it out to the same drift. Once again, the float was pulled down. This time, I could feel something after the hook-set but it quickly fell off. I rebaited once again, cast it slightly further out. When the float reached the same area, it disappeared again. This time, instead of setting the hook fast, I decided to wait for another second and softly pulled the rod back. There was fair amount of motionless resistance at first, followed by a few head shakes. A fish it was! A few seconds later, a silver body broke out on the surface. Like the other fish, it also darted toward the shallows right away. I rewinded as fast as I could to gain line control. Within a minute, I turned the fish to its side and could see the absence of the adipose fin. While I happily pushed the fish up the bank by its tail, my dad had come up. Both of us were pretty excited and relieved after going home with an empty cooler in the last several trips.

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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2011, 10:44:58 PM »

With one adult and one jack coho on the beach, I now had more confidence. The first skein of fresh roe had been used up. I decided to take out some older roe. Well, old is bit of an understatement. This skein of roe has been aging in the fridge since two weeks ago during our first trip to the Vedder. It was cured so nicely so I didn't want to refreeze it. The result was much harder piece of egg colony, decorated with molds in different colours. Last year, we caught some beautiful coho in the Lower Fraser River with roe in similar conditions, so I didn't see why this wouldn't work. What better way to test than by putting it on the hook of an unsuspecting angler? I looped a big piece onto my dad's hook. ;D

By this point Shane had returned to our run after seeing my bigger catch from further down. Both of us worked the top of the run while my dad worked the tailout where he lost his first fish. While we were chatting away, my dad called out loudly. I turned around and could see him fighting a good fish. Both of us dropped our rods and went down to assist. I reminded him to guide the fish into the little shallow bay further downstream. Nervously, he walked down with a coho buck that seemingly had given up. I cautioned him that it would probably make another dash when its abdomen touched the shallow bottom. Luckily, it didn't. Instead, it rolled in the shallow water a few times. I reached down and grabbed onto the tail firmly before checking for the adipose fin. It was absent so I quickly scooped it up onto the beach. His first hatchery coho salmon was now landed. My dad cheered as he had just won the lottery. It was a male coho salmon, roughly around 6lb like the one I had killed.



Recounting what happened, my dad said that fish had already took the float down once prior to being hooked. He recast the remaining bait to the same spot and the float went down again, which surprised him. When I opened up this fish's stomach, dozens of cured eggs spewed out of it. I guess it was hungry. ;)

After some deserving rest, I put some more of that moldy roe onto his hook again and we returned to fish the head of the run while he worked his hot spot at the tailout. Amazingly, our conversation was once again interrupted by commotion further downstream. I turned around and could not believe what I was seeing. My dad's rod was bent to its fullest while another silver coho leaped completely out of the water further downstream from him. This time, the fish had taken him downstream into the faster water like what happened on Tuesday. I told him to point his rod upstream and sideway instead of straight up, because the fish would magically follow back upstream to him. Unlike Tuesday, when he had quite a bit of difficulty, this fish cooperated and was back up to where he was in no time. Once the fish was under control, we started working on landing the fish in the shallow bay. Like a replay of the previous fish, it didn't show much of a struggle and turned to its side once my dad pulled it into the shallow water. I reached down and was delighted to see another fish without an adipose fin. "Is it a wild? Is it a wild?", he asked anxiously. I held it up and walked up the bank to him, which answered his question.



With three adult and one jack coho salmon on the beach, this was now turning into one of the more memorable trips. All good thing comes to an end of course, the bite died off at around 10:30am. Before that happened, I managed to bring in another hatchery marked coho jack.

We worked our roe through the run until 11:30am without much success. Shane gave his spoon a try in the last 30 minutes or so and managed to find one more wild coho salmon. His hatchery coho salmon remained illusive. ;D



In total, we were able to produce nine hook-ups, which wasn't too bad for a morning session. I'm not sure if these fish were simply moving through, or actually holding at one spot. My guess is that they were just moving through because the bites were not too consistent. From our conversations with other anglers later on, it sounds like other parts of the river were producing better as some were going home with their limits of fish. That's ok, we were more than satisfied with our results.

Until today, the pursuit of coho salmon by float fishing on the Chilliwack River has been a frustrating one for my dad. At the age of 75, his mobility is no longer good so every trip is limited to a couple of spots, which means some luck is needed when finding these sneaky silvers. A day like today completes this pursuit and wraps up his 2011's visit to Vancouver nicely.

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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2011, 11:03:05 PM »

Nice report.  Congratulations to your Dad.
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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2011, 11:17:59 PM »

At one time I took Rodney to the Hot Spots, I guess he better take me know as I have only one hatchery adult to the beach this season along with 3 chinooks jacks and 2 coho jack. Oh must not forget the pike minnow too. ;D ;D

I did repeatedly offer you to join us. ;D

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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2011, 11:29:12 PM »

Shane doen't look too happy looking at those hatchery cohos. ;D Good report Rod
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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2011, 12:57:33 AM »

Nice Report rodney look like i need to find a new honey hole my self :D
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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2011, 08:17:06 AM »

Great read Rod!  Congrats to your dad as well - he looks pretty happy!  Those are great moments for both of you to remember.

We gave it a go as well (as you know), and I managed to land my first coho with a blade - my first on hardware!  The take was hard and the fish immediately wrapped itself around the leader and mainline - to the point at which even my float was wrapped around its body.  That ended the battle pretty quickly and the fish was brought to hand...a hatchery doe of about 8 lbs.  Would have been nice to have played the fish out a bit more - but hey, I'm not complaining!
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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2011, 10:52:41 AM »

Got to say Rod you are living the dream...so to speak.

You have a career which allows you fishing time...actually it kind of requires it....your wife loves to fish....and you get to spend quality time with your father catching fish together.

Congrats to your Dad on the nice fish.

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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2011, 11:07:03 AM »

Nice fishing Rodney.  I never understand how you manage to land so many so consistently, its impressive.

I was out yesterday on a spot that I had worked very hard to find because the river changes from year to year.  Of course, there is always lots of company on all places I have every found but that is to be expected.   I was fortunate to run into carich940 from this forum - a very nice guy and an excellent fisherman too.    The river had come down quite a lot since Wednesday but I found the fishing was better during the heavy rains because the clarity had not degraded too much and a lot of fish were pushing up the river.

After trying so long and hard for Coho over the years I have finally been able to get into them with blades and roe.   My copper blades appeared to outperform the roe - just letting them sit in the current below me was enough to get some hard hits on a number of occasions (The one I got hit my spinner in about 1 foot depth of water - might have been a follower).   The thing that was frustrating was just how difficult it was to keep them on the line - hooked three yesterday only to lose two of them right at my feet on account of them doing a "death roll" just before I could tail them in.    The day before I had much the same ratio.

Over this week I had six hookups and landed two.  One was released because it was hooked outside the mouth and technically foul hooked though I am pretty sure it had slashed at my spinner and hooked itself that way.

There were also a fair number of chums in the system that were easily foul hooked unfortunately.   Also some springs willing to take my roe but completely unwilling to brought anywhere near the shore (spat out my hook both times)
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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2011, 12:54:07 PM »

A very nice report Rodney and most certainly agree that you are indeed living a dream considering what you have to enjoy and treasure. I think your reports have a deeper emphasis in daily living, and that it is not all about fishing really, but the gift of relationships which are dear to you, and to have opportunities to nurture and enjoy. Time with your dad must most certainly be a treasure chest of memories and hopefully with more in the future to come for you both, and Nina too I suspect. Its all good my friend! :) :)
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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2011, 02:02:14 PM »

Don't second guess yourself too much frozen salmon. There is a lot to be said for timing. Being at the right place at the right time. Or being at the river on the right day/conditions. you also read way more about success stories than the days people go out and catch nothing. Keep trying.
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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2011, 03:44:53 PM »

Don't second guess yourself too much frozen salmon. There is a lot to be said for timing. Being at the right place at the right time. Or being at the river on the right day/conditions. you also read way more about success stories than the days people go out and catch nothing. Keep trying.
Agreed,  I have been the last few years fishing the vedder and I am only now starting to see any results so you have to be patient - catching coho is not easy even if you do manage to hook one.   Definitely true that you hear way more success stories. A good number of people around me get skunked including me some days but you won't hear from them.    All I can suggest is find some spots where the water is three feet deep or more and flowing at a steady walking pace.  Get there as early as possible chuck a small copper or silver colorado blade below a float, maintain tension between the float and your rod tip then let it sweep an arc below you and retrieve it back slowly.    They have been hammering that kind of presentation - typically at the end of the sweep and on one occasion right at my feet before I was about to pull the spinner out the water.

Personally I prefer making my own blades.   I purchase size 3 colorado blades,  a bunch of Siwash hooks, red beads,  soldering wire and some u shaped clevises so I can attach the blade to the wire.  You can get the blades, hooks and clevises at Army & Navy provided they aren't sold out.   I put the beads between the blade clevis and the hook, I attach a swivel above the clevis (soldering wire can be easily wrapped to form a loop for the swivel on one end and the hook on the other)  The reason I prefer my own blades is a) they are cheap if you lose them to snags and b) they are light so you will get a nice fluttering action from them if you fish them below a float with a weight.   The main downside is my leader to the blade will sometimes wrap around the mainline on account of them being so light, I use 18 inches of leader no more to minimize that problem.

Roe works great too but its a bit of a pain to deal with when you are starting out and the blades seem to be working just as well (..for me at least)

PS: I have been using size 8 Siwash hooks which are very sharp.  You could probably afford to go a bit larger than that - get advice about that if you do decide to try this.

Good luck out there.
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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2011, 06:41:07 PM »

I fished the Vedder for salmon for the first time in 20 years on Friday and I was pleasantly surprised. I'm not a fan of crowds but I had some good experiences fishing Pinks with many people around so I figured I would give it a try. I saw no snaggers all day, no abuse of fish, no fights or even arguments, and no illegal activity. It was certainly busy but everyone seemed to be having a good time.
We arrived at a spot in the lower that I thought would hold some soft water (from steelheading) and found it was already "busy" at 6:45am.
Of course as the morning went on the number of people multiplied by 10.
People were getting into fish on roe or wool but my rod was set up with a spoon. I casted spoons for awhile but found I couldn't get the distance to reach the slower water. I switched over to a float with a colorado blade (custom painted green/silver) and very quickly started to get into fish. I hadn't really fished blades before so I did a bit of experimenting with drifts. I found that a proper dead drift resulted in fish most often, though I did hook a few coho on the slow retrieve in one of the deeper pools.
I managed to catch my first hatchery coho (an absolutely chrome 8lb buck) in 2 years on the green blade.  On successive casts I hooked a coho, a chrome chum, and a relatively fresh large pink. You never know what you're going to get.
A bit later in the day I hooked into 2 massive springs at mid-river. In the fast water I had no hope of landing them but the fight was fun!
I also caught a jack coho on the retrieve but it had a partial adipose so I released it.
All in all another great day fishing.
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Re: Chilliwack River, October 14th 2011
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2011, 12:19:49 AM »

Great report Rod!
Happy to hear that your dad had a good day.
It's been many many years since I went fishing with my dad, but I do have many fond memories fishing with him when I was young.
Expectation of going fishing with dad early in the morning with always made me sleepless the night before. :)
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