First time I went fishing on vedder river was fall 2010 , I had nothing but confusion , the question was how these guys got plenty of fish except me, was terribly weird and strange , thought maybe it s a question of luck, but I realized it wasn't, it must be something new for me that I need to digest and learn, I used to fish in the ocean back home since my childhood , I get to develop I hell of methods and techniques out there , but non of them helped me during my first season in vedder river , first thing I did is to change my gear, proper gear with good experience are deffinetely fruitful , they other things that helped me well according to my ocean fishing skills is about tricking the fish to bite, that is the starting point and the precious idea behind sports fishing , snagging fish doesn't help to become a satisfied ungler, and of course you Ganna look like an idiot out there, other thing is suspended presentation, my only recomandation about fishing is you need to be smart enough on how to addapt to any situation out there on the river,