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Head of RCMP union says Liberal gun ban fails to address crime

More top police experts are doubting the effectiveness of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s ban on handguns.

As first reported by Blacklock’s Reporter, Regina police chief and the president of the National Police Federation (NPF) Brian Sauve told the House of Commons public safety committee that Bill C-21 will not address violent gun crime. The NPF represents RCMP officers.

“Firearms will continue to make their way into Canada,” explained Sauve.

“(The bill will) not address issues of organized crime nor gang violence, illegal weapon smuggling, systemic causes of crime or emerging threats.”

According to Sauve, the law pushed through by the Liberal government without debate doesn’t address the “root problem” of crime.

“Bill C-21 narrowly focuses on the tool or the firearm and not the criminal activity surrounding it,” he said.

“By only addressing the tool you are failing to address the root problem.”

Sauve’s testimony echoes statements made by dozens of law enforcement officials throughout Canada.

As reported by True North earlier this year, Toronto Deputy Police Chief Myron Demkiw also told parliament that a handgun ban would “certainly not” deal with the city’s surging crime problem.

“Our problem in Toronto are handguns from the United States,” said Demkiw in February.

“The issues around investing in what you described is certainly not going to deal with the crime problem we’re facing in Toronto, as it relates to the use of criminal handguns.”

Earlier this month, Conservative MP Shannon Stubbs called the bill a “gun-confiscation” law.

“Under the NDP-Liberals, violent crime has increased in cities like Toronto and Vancouver. They have failed to eliminate the illegal guns used in those crimes, and put end gang activity in communities across Canada,” tweeted Stubbs on Oct. 12.

“The NDP-Liberals want to push through Bill C-21, their gun-confiscation bill, when the Department of Public Safety stated it “has no specific research indicating new gun controls will reduce gun crime.”

https://tnc.news/2022/11/01/rcmp-union-gun-ban-fails/

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Perhaps liberal senator Sharon Carstairs let the real reason for their actions slip way back in 1996:

"C-68 has little to do with gun control or crime control, but it is the first step necessary to begin the social re-engineering of Canada."

— Quote by Senator Sharon Carstairs (Liberal) 1996 January 26 - 11th Annual Community Legal Education Associations (CLEA) Conference, Winnipeg, Manitoba

http://www.whyfor.com/firearm/quotes.html#CARSTAIRS

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Top Cops Testify Trudeau’s Handgun Ban is Misguided and Useless
 
Bill C-21 and the national handgun freeze recently imposed by the Trudeau government is misguided at best and useless at worst, according to both the government’s own documents and police experts across Canada.
 
The government’s own published statements tell the tale, as do police subject-matter experts from across Canada.

“The vast majority of owners of handguns and of other firearms in Canada lawfully abide by requirements, and most gun crimes are not committed with legally-owned firearms.”

- Public Safety Canada’s document titled Reducing Violent Crime: A Dialogue on Handguns and Assault Weapons.

“Many participants felt strongly that a ban would target law-abiding owners, rather than illicit firearms, and would not greatly impact crime reduction (particularly gang violence). As a result, many called for enhanced enforcement capacity for law enforcement and border services, as well as harsher punishments for firearms trafficking and gun-related crime.”

- Engagement Summary Report - Reducing Violent Crime: A Dialogue on Handguns and Assault-Style Firearms[ii]

“We continue to maintain that restricting lawful handgun ownership will not meaningfully address the real issue: illegal handguns obtained from the United States that have led to the disturbing current trend in gun violence that is largely related to gangs, street gangs, and more sophisticated organized crime groups.”

- Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police[iii]

“Most of the laws we create are not going to be followed by the people who are committing the crimes with the guns. That's really what it comes down to. A ban is only as good as the people who are willing to follow it. We have a ban on murders in Canada, yet, sadly, we still have homicides happening all the time.”

- Chief Evan Bray, Regina Police Service[iv]

“A handgun ban in Toronto will do nothing to abate gun crime. A city ban would have to be a bylaw, and criminals are totally ignoring criminal law, so a bylaw ticket likely won’t scare them! And the ‘law abiding’ handgun owners are just that, and not a threat.”

- Chris D. Lewis, Ontario Provincial Police Commissioner, Retired[v]

“It would be unmanageable and unfair to the majority of handgun owners who obey the law and always use their guns safely. Let’s effectively deal with the criminals that do NOT obey the current criminal law.”

- Chris D. Lewis, Ontario Provincial Police Commissioner, Retired[vi]

“Bill C-21 narrowly focuses on the tool or the firearm and not the criminal activity surrounding it. By only addressing the tool you are failing to address the root problem.”

- Brian Sauvé, President of the National Police Federation[vii]

“There's no way in my world or any world I know that this would have an impact on somebody who’s going to go out and buy an illegal gun and use it to kill another person or shoot another person.”

- Mike McCormack, President of the Toronto Police Association[viii]

“More regulations on law-abiding citizens is profoundly stupid. It is done by incompetent governments faced with a problem who want to be seen to be doing something but aren’t smart enough to actually figure out what to do.”

- Former police officer Leo Knight[ix]

“They're not domestically sourced. They are internationally sourced. Our problem in Toronto is handguns from the United States. Investing in what you described is certainly not going to deal with the crime problem we’re facing in Toronto as it relates to criminal handguns and the use of criminal handguns.”

- Myron Demkiw, Deputy Chief, Toronto Police Service

“Canada already has a strict licensing regime for firearms purchases and the changes proposed do not address issues of organized crime, nor gang violence, illegal weapons smuggling, systemic causes of crime, or emerging threats such as 3D printed or ghost guns.”

- Brian Sauvé, President of the National Police Federation[xi]

“Restricting lawful handgun ownership will not meaningfully address the real issue which is illegal firearms and illegal handguns obtained from the United States that have led to the disturbing current trend in gun violence that is largely related to gangs, street gangs and more sophisticated organized criminal groups.”

- Chief Evan Bray, Regina Police Service[xii]

“A very strong theme is that most people who are committing crime with guns are criminals who don't have the ability to possess them. It's not law-abiding gun owners who are committing the majority of these crimes.”

- Chief Evan Bray, Regina Police Service[xiii]

“Bill C-5 strikes down some mandatory minimum penalties related to weapons trafficking and firearms offences. This is inconsistent with the expressed intent of the government to reduce firearms violence in Canada.”

- Brian Sauvé, President of the National Police Federation[xiv]

“Tackling criminal activity requires strong measures against criminals who threaten vulnerable communities, especially criminal activity that funds and empowers gangs and organized crime.”

- Brian Sauvé, President of the National Police Federation[xv]
Sources:
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/cnslttns/hndgn/rdcng-vlnt-crm-en.aspx
[ii] https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/2019-rdcng-vlnt-crm-dlg/index-en.aspx
[iii] https://www.cacp.ca/index.html?asst_id=3119
[iv] https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/44-1/SECU/meeting-6/evidence#Int-11503179
[v] https://twitter.com/ChrisLewisLLS/status/1159839338672189440
[vi] https://twitter.com/ChrisLewisLLS/status/1030863009974034432
[vii] https://www.theepochtimes.com/police-chiefs-say-upcoming-gun-control-legislation-doesnt-address-illegal-firearms_4824885.html
[viii] https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/handgun-ban-blair-toronto-police-union-1.4807778
[ix] https://tnc.news/2022/06/01/14-top-cops-and-policing-experts-who-doubt-the-effectiveness-of-the-proposed-liberal-gun-ban/

• https://openparliament.ca/committees/public-safety/44-1/6/myron-demkiw-6/

[xi] https://www.theepochtimes.com/police-chiefs-say-upcoming-gun-control-legislation-doesnt-address-illegal-firearms_4824885.html
[xii] https://www.oacp.ca/en/news/cacp-releases-statement-on-bill-c-21-firearms.aspx
[xiii] https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/44-1/SECU/meeting-6/evidence#Int-11503116
[xiv] https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/11759469#Int-11666836
[xv] ibid
 
https://myemail.constantcontact.com/IN-THE-NEWS-THIS-WEEK--Top-Cops-Testify-Trudeau-s-Handgun-Ban-is-Misguided-and-Useless.html?soid=1124731702303&aid=Bre1DXqqP3k&fbclid=IwAR3bvkYUK7g2Q_Ttp-E3by1ex6B05Rc7vwuF9NEZrjqBShbstLDugv30pSg

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Canada’s police chiefs request urgent meeting with the premiers: ‘Policing is at a crossroad’

Canada’s police chiefs are sounding the alarm over public safety.

In a letter obtained by Global News, the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police said it urgently needs to meet with premiers from across the country to look at how to protect Canadians, police officers, and combat a spike in guns, gangs, drugs, and violence.

CACP President Chief Danny Smyth wrote the letter to Manitoba Premier Heather Stefanson, the chair of the Council of the Federation which represents premiers from Canada’s 13 provinces and territories.

He said there are several urgent and emerging issues surrounding violence and policing in the country which need to be discussed with Canada’s premiers.

“In the last six months, we have lost nine officers — eight of them to random violence,” his letter read.

“There is no question that the degradation of discourse around policing and police funding, the lack of accountability in our justice system, and the significant increase in drug, gang, and gun violence have all played a part in escalating the danger for our profession.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/9599798/canadian-association-of-chiefs-of-police-safety-concerns-premiers-letter/


Be nice if they all agreed to deal with the actual issues, rather than legal, vetted firearm owners!!! Seems the LEO's have that in mind here...

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The door continues to revolve...

Bail granted to man facing gun charges, described as 'high-level' risk to public safety

A Kamloops man facing serious firearms-related charges was released Tuesday on bail despite a prosecutor labelling him “a risk to public safety at the highest level.”

Zachariah William Lewis is facing four firearms charges stemming from an incident earlier this month in which police are alleged to have found a modified .22-calibre handgun on him during an arrest.

The 29-year-old is also charged with possession of stolen property and driving while prohibited relating to a January incident, and he has serious firearms charges pending from an arrest on New Year’s Eve during which police are alleged to have found a sawed-off shotgun in his possession.

Hansen asked Kamloops provincial court Judge Stella Frame to keep Lewis locked up pending trial. He argued releasing him would bring the administration of justice into disrepute.

“The firearms-related offences in particular represent a risk to public safety at the highest level,” he said.

“And it’s clear that even the presence of pending charges and arrests by police have not prevented further firearms-related offence allegations.”

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/Kamloops/423264/Bail-granted-to-man-facing-gun-charges-described-as-high-level-risk-to-public-safety#423264