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allwaysfishin

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spread the word
« on: July 31, 2005, 10:29:43 PM »

i was at a family reunion tonite and the topic of salmon came up as everyone knows i fish like crazy and have many times brought a few fresh salmon for the big family dinner. Well someone piped up," I was talking to a native fellow at a gas station in hope and he said he would have fresh sockeye for sale over the next few days and to look for his van when we were on our way back thru to go back to kamloops on monday." He then said, "I read in the paper that the sockeye runs were drastically lower than predicted and that sockeye openings were not going to be given until mid august"
    Well I said, all of you should tell ALL your friends and co workers to boycott all native fish sales. When asked why I explained the situation at present on the fraser, with a history of last years Fiasco of overfishing at the hands of native nets. I then said if anyone in the family needs a fresh salmon for a bbq this summer to call me and I'll go catch one and give it to them for free.

So I thought i would post this and see if i can motivate a few folks to spread the word to friends and co workers to boycott native fish sales throughout the lowermainland and fraser valley.
I realize the futility of this request but hey, We sporties are looking like the true stewards of conservation and we need to get people informed.
In a day of politically correct this and don't eat farmed that, we should be able to convince all kinds of people that native fish sales should not be encouraged nor profited from at the expense of struggling salmon runs.
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Re: spread the word
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2005, 10:35:31 PM »

The lure of cheap sockeyes ($10.00 per fish) is too much temptation for alot of people. Compare that price with over $30.00 for the same sockeye at Save On Foods. The DFO should conduct a sting operation on the natives selling their so called "food" fish.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2005, 12:13:42 AM »

The lure of cheap sockeyes ($10.00 per fish) is too much temptation for alot of people. Compare that price with over $30.00 for the same sockeye at Save On Foods. The DFO should conduct a sting operation on the natives selling their so called "food" fish.
Be careful,donot buy any. :D :D

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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2005, 09:36:32 AM »

and don't forget to mention historical perspective while you are "spreading the word"; specifically how white expansion/dams and inexhaustable greed for more "stuff" has destroyed more salmon rivers and watersheds than a 1000 years of indians fishing.

just want to keep things balanced.

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Re: spread the word
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2005, 01:05:30 PM »

a 1000 years ago and today are 2 different era's. fishing is not a way of life or necesssity for most natives i know. natives today have pure clean water to drink from, vehicles to drive instead of walking for miles on foot, medicines to cure ill and weak,lumber to build houses with and electricity to keep warm in the middle of winter at the turn of the swicth, supermarkets to buy food and clothes to keep warm in instead of animal hide as was the case 1000 years ago. All this requires power from hydro dams. Yes "white people" are guilty for this but how would the natives feel if we took all this away from them........not good. and in the end the natives will always get all the fish they want when they want. now who's really benefitting from who.
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allwaysfishin

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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2005, 01:09:14 PM »

the Indians of 1000 years ago are gone.
pretty sad excuse to "excuse" FN's from acting on conservations behalf.
Dennis, I am Status Metis, with a deep history relating to the who's who of the Metis Nation. I find current day practices by sto'lo and cheam bands exclusively, to be absolutely abhorent when it comes to the current fishery. I think because of my lineage and relation to the aboriginal peoples of this country, I can safely make the comments I have.
If 1000 years of white man's plunder can justify the cheam and sto'lo fishing marginalized sockeye runs in the here and now, give yer head a shake bud. that's just like saying two wrongs make a right.
these 2 bands are a disgrace to the aboriginal peoples in this province and do nothing to change the image that most have of them.
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Bantam_50

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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2005, 10:39:49 PM »

Touche`  :o
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FISHIN MAGICIAN

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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2005, 11:01:25 PM »

Apparently Dennis K thinks that two wrongs does make a right, hold it over the white race for destroying the salmon runs of yest year and years gone by, and then continue to fish without regard for the stocks.

Dennis K, I don't believe you are like them, but you do advocate the devil sometimes don't you! lol. I can tell from your previous posts that you don't necessarily like what these Natives rouges are doing.

TELL US DENNIS K, EXACTLY WHAT DOES WHITE MAN OWE NATIVES IN TERMS OF THE FISHERIES THESE DAYS? IN SETTLEMENT OF THAT DISPUTE, WHAT ARE NATIVES PREPARED TO RELINQUISH IN RETURN?

I would love to hear it, and so far, I haven't heard anyone of Native blood give a reasonable answer to that question.

This is going to be interesting, as white man waits with baited breath...
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Re: spread the word
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2005, 12:16:34 PM »



TELL US DENNIS K, EXACTLY WHAT DOES WHITE MAN OWE NATIVES IN TERMS OF THE FISHERIES THESE DAYS? IN SETTLEMENT OF THAT DISPUTE, WHAT ARE NATIVES PREPARED TO RELINQUISH IN RETURN?

I would love to hear it, and so far, I haven't heard anyone of Native blood give a reasonable answer to that question.

This is going to be interesting, as white man waits with baited breath...

Let's put it this way...  You give me all of your money FISHIN MAGICIAN.  Then we will negotiate.  I'll give you $1 back if you relinquish your wallet too in return.  Then we'd be even, right?

Let me state this as plainly as it can be done: the degradation of the environment (fish stocks included) is due to the pursuit of power and profit.  Race is a smoke screen.  Profiteers are of every colour.
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allwaysfishin

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Re: spread the word
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2005, 02:37:03 PM »

well said  ;)
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FISHIN MAGICIAN

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Re: spread the word
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2005, 04:32:24 PM »

with that said, we're all headed down the road to anarchy, and the movie "Mad Max"  :P
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2005, 04:39:09 PM »

I think your right to boycot their fish sales. I have been doing it for years and so now my family and friends and co workers as well have started. But you know what, what ever they do not sell they throw in a ditch or back in the water and then they will say it was the water temp that killed them.
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