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[THE_ROE_SLINGER]

They are definatly in there


Roe

[kingpin]

The river won't be fishable for a little while, the claybanks dumped in today.  The water looks to have come up a solid half a foot.  The canal looks like a TimHo's double double. 

[Steelhawk]

We were float fishing the vedder and flossing the fraser.

You know DFO really needs to take a position on flossing.  I didnt see a single sockeye flossed while I was there.  If they want to minimize flossing out side of sockeye openings then thats fine with me...just don't use the early run as an excuse.  If their only interest is the early run, I understand why fishers choose not to follow the selective angling request...no one was hooking any sockeye.

I have been saying all along that sockeye hookups have been quite rare by bbers in early spring-fishing season.  Fished on Saturday. 2 springs for both me and my friend, but saw only one sockeye hooked and released quickly and properly among 80 people for 6 hours. That is no justification to stop the bbers targeting springs in early season for fish conservation reason. If this slow sockeye hookup goes on, I doublt if sockeye fishing is wiorth the trip even if they open  it up on August 1st. I hope they will only open it when their test fisheries have strong enough return numbers.

[Gooey]

Steelhawk, you and I agree that DFO using the early runs seems like an excuse but thats about as far as it goes...please dont glorify BB with words like targeting associated to it. 

Bottom line is that the reason few socs are hooked right now is that few are in the river.  You are not targeting springs, if the socks were there in any numbers, you would hit them too.   

[liketofish]

Let's not start another bb debate. 

[Steelhawk]

There is no need to glorify any legal method of fishing. BB is just one method to catch fish right now. It can be target specific and bbers there now are targeting springs as their quary. You are right when sockeye is thick then you hook them as a by catch. But there are those who do have the ability to bypass socs for the most part and that is a fact. Everybody has their own experiences and yours and mine are different. But you are right in that sense that collectively, bbers will hook into socs more when the socs are thicker. That is why I support closing down the Fraser from the last week of July until sockeye is open.    However, I am an advocate for the fishing rights of average-joe fishermen when stocks are not endangered, so until there is a proof that a group is hurting fish stock, DFO should not shut down any group unnecessarily.

[FLOSSNBONK]

There is no need to glorify any legal method of fishing. BB is just one method to catch fish right now. It can be target specific and bbers there now are targeting springs as their quary. You are right when sockeye is thick then you hook them as a by catch. But there are those who do have the ability to bypass socs for the most part and that is a fact. Everybody has their own experiences and yours and mine are different. But you are right in that sense that collectively, bbers will hook into socs more when the socs are thicker. That is why I support closing down the Fraser from the last week of July until sockeye is open.    However, I am an advocate for the fishing rights of average-joe fishermen when stocks are not endangered, so until there is a proof that a group is hurting fish stock, DFO should not shut down any group unnecessarily.

Finally a voice of reason! If the rec fishery is harming stocks, and I don't care what echelon, then it is the responsibility of the DFO to shut the river down period.To all! There is no way the rec fishery can do as much damage as an ill timed commercial opening.And... that should include First Nations. Purely from a conservationist , tax payer POV.

[Steelhawk]

Yes, the most the recreation sector can affect is 2% of the total catch on an average. Why not turn the attention to the other stakeholders?