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[dwsk]

The point I am trying to get accross is that we are talking two different markets....G.M. of Canada then the US side of GM....we buy smaller amounts of product like tires, electrical components, etc., etc.,...this equal larger costs to purchase....wages in the auto sector in Canada are higher along with the benifits....all this with a fast balloning dollar makes it a HUGE difference in costs.....how many of you remember when GM first came out with the Denali and the Duramax???.....brokers were coming up here from the states to purchase at retail prices, selling to the dealer, who were selling to the public...it took about 6 months to close this down by the US/Canadian governments.....

Doug-you talked about rebates and not effecting the dealers....sorry, this is the farthest from the truth....rebates of any size would effect everyone.....why??....it puts huge pressure on the used car markets, you selling your used piece, never mind the huge, rental and lease fleets.....would take years to recover......

This is interesting. The dollar will probably start dropping but when and by how much, is hard to predict. The longer it stays around par, the more pressure on the car dealers to lower their price. Something has to give. I don't see the government stepping in to protect the industry, so it is either the dealer or the manufacturers. If they do not you will see a huge increase in the number of brokers available to purchase cars for you and ship them across the border. Unfortunately it will probably be littered with criminals.

leaseman, who do you think will break first?

Then there is the price difference on alcohol. That one really burns me.

[Stratocaster]

Doug-you talked about rebates and not effecting the dealers....sorry, this is the farthest from the truth....rebates of any size would effect everyone.....why??....it puts huge pressure on the used car markets, you selling your used piece, never mind the huge, rental and lease fleets.....would take years to recover

So you don't think that local dealerships shipping ex lease and ex rental cars from the US and selling them here have any affect on our used car markets?  Did you know that a local Nissan dealership just brought over 20 of these US used vehicles up here for sale?  So its ok for them to access the US market but not your everyday consumer?



The point I am trying to get accross is that we are talking two different markets....G.M. of Canada then the US side of GM....we buy smaller amounts of product like tires, electrical components, etc., etc.,...this equal larger costs to purchase....wages in the auto sector in Canada are higher along with the benifits....all this with a fast balloning dollar makes it a HUGE difference in costs.....how many of you remember when GM first came out with the Denali and the Duramax???.....brokers were coming up here from the states to purchase at retail prices, selling to the dealer, who were selling to the public...it took about 6 months to close this down by the US/Canadian governments.....

So what you really are telling me is that I should pay 16 grand more for the vehicle that I want so my conscience feels better?  Your argument is made invalid because of something we call FREE TRADE.  Alternatively we could get rid of free trade, close the borders, have manufacturers and retailers charge whatever they want for our market.  We could pay 15 bucks for a coffee at starbucks just so the girl working at the counter won't starve.

I've supported the local dealers for many years.  I've bought well over 7 cars most of which were new despite receiving piss poor service and begging for a few dollars off MSRP or some stupid floormats.  I would still support them if they were even close.  Sadly they are not.

BTW I just purchased a new 2008 Subaru Tribeca Limited from a dealership in Seattle.  MSRP was about 34 grand but they gave me invoice price less 700 for a total of 31,300 US$ (30,000 cdn).  No hassles no fuss.  I told him what I wanted and he gave me the lowest price he could.  Did not try to sell me the stupid undercoating or any other extras.  The MSRP for the exact same vehicle here is about 48 grand, less whatever miniscle discount you could beg for.

[mastercaster]

BTW I just purchased a new 2008 Subaru Tribeca Limited from a dealership in Seattle.  MSRP was about 34 grand but they gave me invoice price less 700 for a total of 31,300 US$ (30,000 cdn).  No hassles no fuss.  I told him what I wanted and he gave me the lowest price he could.  Did not try to sell me the stupid undercoating or any other extras.  The MSRP for the exact same vehicle here is about 48 grand, less whatever miniscle discount you could beg for.

Doug, that's sounds like a rippin' deal....how can you blame anyone for wanting to save that kind of dough?  The money we saved on our vehicles can now be used to buy more fishing gear or a trip up to the Charlottes!   

So have you brought it across the border yet because as I was saying on an earlier post it's getting busier all the time.  The customs officer that I dealt with at the border said that Mondays and Fridays were the worst so if you haven't done it yet, try to avoid those days.  He also told me that if I had been there between 8:00 and 9:00 I would have been first in line.  Once that's done you can also speed up the process by faxing the Form 1 that you get from customs and your recall letter to RIV and ask them to email or fax Form 2 back to you so you can get your car to Canadian Tire for the inspections.

BTW, I LOOOVVVVE my new truck....spending more time with it than my wife. 

[Stratocaster]

BTW I just purchased a new 2008 Subaru Tribeca Limited from a dealership in Seattle.  MSRP was about 34 grand but they gave me invoice price less 700 for a total of 31,300 US$ (30,000 cdn).  No hassles no fuss.  I told him what I wanted and he gave me the lowest price he could.  Did not try to sell me the stupid undercoating or any other extras.  The MSRP for the exact same vehicle here is about 48 grand, less whatever miniscle discount you could beg for.

Doug, that's sounds like a rippin' deal....how can you blame anyone for wanting to save that kind of dough?  The money we saved on our vehicles can now be used to buy more fishing gear or a trip up to the Charlottes!   

So have you brought it across the border yet because as I was saying on an earlier post it's getting busier all the time.  The customs officer that I dealt with at the border said that Mondays and Fridays were the worst so if you haven't done it yet, try to avoid those days.  He also told me that if I had been there between 8:00 and 9:00 I would have been first in line.  Once that's done you can also speed up the process by faxing the Form 1 that you get from customs and your recall letter to RIV and ask them to email or fax Form 2 back to you so you can get your car to Canadian Tire for the inspections.

BTW, I LOOOVVVVE my new truck....spending more time with it than my wife. 

Thanks for the tips!

Definitely more fishing gear!  And maybe a guided trip to the stamp for steelies!

I plan on bringing it over next Tuesday.  My brother in law's girlfriend is a US border guard at sumas so I'm assured that all the paperwork will be done on time.  I might go down and pick it up on Monday evening, stay overnight at the skagit casino hotel and then be at the border hopefully first in line Tuesday morning.

Glad you like your truck, I wanted to buy a Tacoma as well but the wife wanted a bit more luxury

[KLX]

[My brother in law's girlfriend is a US border guard at sumas so I'm assured that all the paperwork will be done on time.


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wouldnt that be your sister unless your both keeping a secret

[Stratocaster]

   No, my wife's brother's girlfriend.  Not my Sister's husband's girlfriend (if he has one).

[leaseman]

Most economists are talking that the canadian dollar will settle around the 90 cent mark in the spring....who knows?? If my crystal ball was working I would be retired!!!

As far as who breaks first.....I'm guessing but thre major manufacturers won't cave in, this is my opinion and hope I am right....they won't cave in because of the HUGE fleets of vehicle that they have sold to the leasing companies....if they drop the prices close to being equal, these leasing companies would lose 100s of millions of dollars, the trickle effect would flow like the Fraser in freshet down to all businesses that lease these vehicle and down to the businesses customers, etc., etc....

If anyone breaks, it would be the gov't closing the boarder a little tighter etc....one thing you will see in the future is the vehicles built in the US will NOT be importable (is that a word??) to Canada...ie the 2009 Corvette...different to here...older ones,2004-2007 at this time must have front and rear bumpers replaced to be Canada friendly...

Hard to believe there is such a difference from there to here, going ahead you will see that it is 2 totally different markets and the older vehicles will still flow cross border, but the newer might have problems

Mike

[leaseman]

Just heard that I might be proven wrong.....
Lets say Thursday might be an interesting day....

[Derp]

Alright so I read all about importing new cars from dealerships in the states.

What I'm wondering is how profitable (cons/pros) would it be to import used cars from the states (private sales and dealers). I'm a student and can't afford new cars and I'm just trying to save a buck.

I've asked some people and they told me to convince private sellers to bring and sell the cars here, telling customs that they're just parking their cars here?? But I don't think this would work.

Anyways, let me know what you think.. Thanks 

[mastercaster]

I'll tell you what I think....I think the guy on the diving board broke his fricken neck! 

As far as I know Americans can't sell their vehicles up here until they've been in the country for a certain period of time. Not positive, but I think it's a year??

[rymack]

Do you have a update on what ou may have been proven wrong on leaseman?

[leaseman]

Things have ground to a halt for the moment, I mean a moment too.....forecasted by Wednesday things should be well on their way to a more balance playing field....

[rymack]

Hey leaseman i am looking at picking up a used vehicle from down south next week...Would there be a good reason to wait? Perhaps i should hurry it up before they close something up?...if you could send me a email in regards to what this may be pertaining to i would appreciate it!
rymack62002@hotmail.com