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fisharoo

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Line sensitivity
« on: August 28, 2013, 07:57:26 AM »

I recently changed my main line from 17lb mono to 12lb fluorocarbon and noticed a decrease in sensitivity. Taps on the rocks used to feel like little lightning bolts, now it is pretty dull barely notice. Is this because of using smaller line or fluro or both? My research showed that fluoro was suppose to be more sensitive than mono because it is more dense. Will I get my feeling back at 15lb?

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Brian the fisherman

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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2013, 10:41:31 AM »

Honestly I have had the opposite, what brand of floro did you try?
What type of rod are you using?

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chronicfisher

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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2013, 05:15:57 PM »

That's weird I used to use mono as main line but switched to floro.with the floro now I find it much more sensitive.
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Fishawn

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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2013, 06:11:58 PM »

Wow guys, must be nice to be rich!  ;D
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fisharoo

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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2013, 08:09:42 PM »

@Brian the fiserhman: I'm using Seagaur Invisx 12lb fluoro on TrophyXL 10' 10-17lb medium casting rod. I read that it should be more sensitive, but what I'm curious to know does the light line weight effect sensitivity? I used to have 17lb mono and hits felt like lightning bolts.

@fishawn, it's cheap just order from ebay. $20 is nothing for your main-line. You don't change it that often.
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Brian the fisherman

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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2013, 12:44:45 PM »

is it red lable floro or blue lable?

the light line should offer even more sensitivity.

I never run more than 15lb test main line and always fish 10 lb floro or 8 lb floro.
I find its just as sensitive as braided can be. Perhaps its the way you rig your weight on the line? Do you run it on a 3 way swivel and the lead hanging down? or do you just run the lead inline with your set up so it slides up and down on the main?

I find that when you put a piece of pencil led or something that goes inline, and let it free float ( do not crimp it to the line ) that when I get bites the weight slides up and down and allows the line to pick up the little taps, instead of the fish having to pull on a piece of weight and the float... so that might be the case of sensitivity on hits. Let me know what ur set up is like and I'll do my best to help you feel those taps.
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fisharoo

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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2013, 03:48:39 PM »

Thanks Brian. It's a blue label: http://seaguar.com/products/invizx.htm

I haven't had the chance to run the float too much, just a few days in Squamish. When I do, I run a sliding lead hanging from a snap on the mainline above the swivel with a bead in-between. Where I've really noticed it is when casting with spoons/spinners in the chuck. I used to feel quite a jolt on my old line if I tapped a rock or got a hit, but taps on the new line aren't quite as electric and can't really feel the wobble of the spoon/spinner so much, kinda dull.

Good to hear that you find it just as sensitive as braid. I was considering switching to that for spinning.

Come to think of it, would the reel make a difference in sensitivity? I've been multi-purposing my casting rod this season while the spinning rod is out for repair. Using the spinning reel on it for long distance casts in the chuck and to avoid getting salt damage and birds nests the Abu. I think I may be comparing my memory of sensitivity with 17lb mono on the baitcaster with 12lb fluro on the spinning reel on the same rod. Would that make a difference?

Come to thing of it, last year I bought the spinning rod and put the 12lb fluro on it. I thought it was quite dull sensitivity wise, but I thought it was just the rod cause it had more action.

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azafai

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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2013, 09:19:58 PM »


Why would you need flouro as main line?

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Brian the fisherman

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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2013, 10:01:39 PM »

I Find that floro doesn't stretch so much. It does break quick if you nick it though.
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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2013, 10:15:06 PM »

I recently changed my main line from 17lb mono to 12lb fluorocarbon and noticed a decrease in sensitivity. Taps on the rocks used to feel like little lightning bolts, now it is pretty dull barely notice. Is this because of using smaller line or fluro or both? My research showed that fluoro was suppose to be more sensitive than mono because it is more dense. Will I get my feeling back at 15lb?

I remember reading some where that a thicker or stiffer line transmits energy better and hence are more sensitive. Typically a 17lb mono is much thicker in diameter than a 12lb fluorocarbon and would be more sensitive. I was fishing an 8wt fly line with thick leader ths season for pinks and was amazed at how sensitive the set up was. Everytime my #6 hook even slightly touched the gravel bottom, I got an immediate "click" feedback. The thick fly line and leader was extremely good at sending any vibration back to my finger. Your fluorocarbon is stiffer than mono but likely could not make up for large loss in diameter. So you ended up with a less sensitive setting. This is my guess.
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fisharoo

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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2013, 11:01:28 PM »

Hey BigBlue, that's what I'm thinking... all about the diameter.

Would using braid or superline increase sensitivity, or at least make up for what I've lost by going to thinner diameter? Brian, you were saying they are pretty similiar as far as sensitivity goes?
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Brian the fisherman

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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2013, 08:50:21 PM »

I just find that floro and braided do not stretch too much on a strike. so they are a like that way.

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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2013, 09:10:37 PM »

The rod tip and action has a lot to do with it...faster action rod will pick up very subtle hits.
-It could be with slower action rod and thick diameter mono you were getting the thump but may actually have been missing the more subtle hits.
--In other words you needed a fairly good thunk to feel it with the softer rod so you actually need a bigger hit to feel it  the faster action rod is more sensitive so you are actually feeling more but the big thunk is only on occasion.
--I sometime find the more sensitive faster action rod and lo stretch line can be a pain much like your fire alarm that keeps going off when you use your toaster.
--There are lo stretch mono's available and you will see some manufacturers now indicating sink rates.
--Specialty lines are great when you're in the right place but can be an issue when they are out of the zone or the use they are intended for.  ie formula 1 car vs 4x4 depends on which track they are run who will win. 


 
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fisharoo

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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2013, 01:49:11 PM »

@skaha, I think you really nailed it.

I've been out on the water quite a bit thinking about this and feeling. I'm thinking like what you said - that the subtle dull taps I'm feeling now I didn't feel at all before. That's my increased sensitivity.
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Re: Line sensitivity
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2013, 02:34:31 PM »

i think you guys are over thinking things here. All you need to have is a free floating drift with as little slack as possible. When you have slack from your rod to your  float it will effect that. the reason you feel the tick or little bite its your rod tip. This can also be changed by your action  of the rod. ive always either used 15lb or 20lb mono with no problems i have even felt the little 1/2 trout on my line.
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