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IronNoggin

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Port Alberni Sockeye
« on: June 29, 2017, 05:38:05 PM »

Recreational Fishery opens Saturday July 1 for 2 per rod per day.

And of course now that we've realized one over the magic number, Area D Gillnet launches Tuesday...  ???

How many minutes before the in-river nets block it completely off again??  ::)

Department of Fishless Oceans at 'er again...  >:(

Sadly...
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Re: Port Alberni Sockeye
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2017, 05:04:47 PM »

They must be slaughtering them out there, Get out your flossing gear and slay em

Category(s): RECREATIONAL - Salmon
Subject: FN0634-Recreational - Salmon - Sockeye - Region 1 - A portion of the Somass River known as Somass Park - Opening July 8, 2017

Effective daily from 05:00 hours to 22:00 hours from July 8, 2017 until further
notice the daily limit of sockeye salmon is one (1) per day in that portion of
the Somass River located approximately 200 meters above and 150 metres below
the island near the boat launch at Somass Park near Service Road.

Anglers are reminded that Paper Mill Dam Pool is closed to all angling.  This
area includes that portion of the Somass River from signs located near the
bottom of the rapids immediately north of Papermill Dam Pool, then downstream
to boundary signs located on both sides of the Somass River approximately 60
metres downstream from the northern tip of the unnamed island directly below
Paper Mill Dam Pool.

Variation Order # 2017-348 and 2017-349


On July 6, 2017 Department staff met with the Area 23 Harvest Committee to
discuss fishery planning for Area 23 Somass Sockeye. The attendees at this
meeting were representatives from the Tseshaht, Hupacasath and Maa-nulth First
Nations and stakeholders from commercial and recreational fishery committees. 
 
The pre-season forecast for Somass sockeye was 172,000.  A run reforecast was
provided today of 300,000.  There continues to be considerable uncertainty
around run timing as well as a very low proportion of age 4 fish that usually
provide a significant contribution to the later part of the run.  As a result,
a continued precautionary approach is being taken.

At the meeting, the Area 23 Harvest Committee recommended opening a portion of
the Somass River non-tidal recreational sockeye fishery.

The Somass Sockeye in-season stock assessment program will be in place in 2017.
This program collects escapement, test fishing, catch and environmental
information on a weekly basis.  This information is collected and a reforecast
will be made weekly every Thursday for the duration of the season.  This may
lead to further recreational sockeye opportunities if conditions warrant.

Fishers are reminded that the Uchuklesit Inlet finfish closure as described in
FN578 is in effect.


Notes:

Barbless hooks are required when fishing for salmon in tidal waters of British
Columbia. 

The term "marked" means a hatchery fish that has a healed scar in place of the
adipose fin.

Sport anglers are encouraged to participate in the Salmon Sport Head Recovery
program by labelling and submitting heads from adipose fin-clipped chinook and
coho salmon.  Recovery of coded-wire tags provides critical information for
coast-wide stock assessment.  Contact the Salmon Sport Head Recovery Program
toll free at (866) 483-9994 for further information.

Anglers are advised to check http://bcsportfishguide.ca for fishing closures
and other recreational fishing information.

Tidal Water Sport Fishing Licences can be purchased via any computer connected
to the internet at
https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/nrls-sndpp/index-eng.cfm
or by using Google search key words "Recfish Licence".

Did you witness suspicious fishing activity or a violation?  If so, please call
the Fisheries and Ocean Canada 24-hour toll free Observe, Record, Report line
at (800) 465-4336.

For the 24 hour recorded opening and closure line, call toll free at
1-(866)431-FISH(3474).


FOR MORE INFORMATION:
 
Contact the Fisheries and Oceans Canada Port Alberni office at 250-720-4440 or
visit our website at http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca.

Fisheries & Oceans Operations Center - FN0634
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Re: Port Alberni Sockeye
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2017, 05:11:02 PM »

Effective 00:01 hours Saturday July 8, 2017 until further notice the daily
quota for the tidal recreational fishery for sockeye salmon will be four (4)
sockeye per day in the following area:

That portion of Subarea 23-1 to 23-11 from the surfline (Cape Beale to
Amphitrite Point) shoreward to a line in Alberni Harbour near the mouth of the
Somass River beginning at a boundary sign Located at 49 degrees 14.190 north
latitude and 124 degrees 50.230 west longitude then through the southern most
point of Hoik Island then to the flashing green light at the mouth of the
Somass River then due east to a boundary sign on the opposite shore.

Open daily from 05:00 hours to 22:00 hours effective July 8, 2017 until further
notice, the daily quota for sockeye salmon in the tidal portion of the Somass
River will be two (2) sockeye per day in the following area:

That portion of Subarea 23-1 from the tidal boundary signs at Paper Mill Dam on
the Somass River downstream to a line located at a boundary sign in upper
Alberni Harbour situated at 49 degrees 14.190 north latitude and 124 degrees
50.230 west longitude then through the southern most point of Hoik Island then
to the flashing green light at the mouth of the Somass River then due east to a
boundary sign on the opposite shore except for:

Paper Mill Dam Pool is closed to all angling.  This area includes that portion
of the Somass River from signs located near the bottom of the rapids
immediately north of Papermill Dam Pool, then downstream to boundary signs
located on both sides of the Somass River approximately 60 metres downstream
from the northern tip of the unnamed island directly below Paper Mill Dam Pool.

Variation Order # 2017-350


On July 6, 2017 Department staff met with the Area 23 Harvest Committee to
discuss fishery planning for Area 23 Somass Sockeye. The attendees at this
meeting were representatives from the Tseshaht, Hupacasath and Maa-nulth First
Nations and stakeholders from commercial and recreational fishery committees. 
 
The pre-season forecast for Somass sockeye was 172,000.  A run reforecast was
provided today of 300,000.  There continues to be considerable uncertainty
around run timing as well as a very low proportion of age 4 fish that usually
provide a significant contribution to the later part of the run.  As a result,
a continued precautionary approach is being taken.

At the meeting, the Area 23 Harvest Committee recommended increasing the daily
limit in the tidal recreational sockeye fishery and opening the tidal portion
of the Somass River.

The Somass Sockeye in-season stock assessment program will be in place in 2017.
This program collects escapement, test fishing, catch and environmental
information on a weekly basis.  This information is collected and a reforecast
will be made weekly every Thursday for the duration of the season.  This may
lead to further recreational sockeye opportunities if conditions warrant.

Fishers are reminded that the Uchuklesit Inlet finfish closure as described in
FN578 is in effect.


Notes:

Barbless hooks are required when fishing for salmon in tidal waters of British
Columbia. 

The term "marked" means a hatchery fish that has a healed scar in place of the
adipose fin.

Sport anglers are encouraged to participate in the Salmon Sport Head Recovery
program by labelling and submitting heads from adipose fin-clipped chinook and
coho salmon.  Recovery of coded-wire tags provides critical information for
coast-wide stock assessment.  Contact the Salmon Sport Head Recovery Program
toll free at (866) 483-9994 for further information.

Anglers are advised to check http://bcsportfishguide.ca for fishing closures
and other recreational fishing information.

Tidal Water Sport Fishing Licences can be purchased via any computer connected
to the internet at
https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/nrls-sndpp/index-eng.cfm
or by using Google search key words "Recfish Licence".

Did you witness suspicious fishing activity or a violation?  If so, please call
the Fisheries and Ocean Canada 24-hour toll free Observe, Record, Report line
at (800) 465-4336.

For the 24 hour recorded opening and closure line, call toll free at
1-(866)431-FISH(3474).


FOR MORE INFORMATION:
 
Contact the Fisheries and Oceans Canada Port Alberni office at 250 720 4440 or
visit our website at http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca.
Fisheries & Oceans Operations Center - FN0635
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Re: Port Alberni Sockeye
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2017, 12:13:21 PM »

They must be slaughtering them out there, Get out your flossing gear and slay em

The escapement noted in the last issued updater was 209 K. The notice also stated:

"There continues to be considerable uncertainty around run timing as well as a very low proportion of age 4 fish that usually provide a significant contribution to the later part of the run. As a result, a continued precautionary approach is being taken."

I guess "precautionary" is to bump sports limits, open the river, allow gillnet opportunities, and tell the Fn's to Damn The Torpedoes. And of course everyone scrambles to get in on it.

And people wonder why we see such wide swings in the numbers of returning fish from year to year, along with conservation restrictions for many...  >:(

Shakin' the ol' noggin again...
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Re: Port Alberni Sockeye
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2017, 02:49:40 PM »

iron nog?? you better give your nog a shake.foolish comments very foolish.Just be happy it's open and there's way more fish than predicted. It's actually great to see when the fish come back in numbers that are efficient to fish. ohh and by the way the commercial gillnet fleet took maybe 4000 pieces, so if you think in your nog that will make the difference on you catching your daily limit of 4, you should take up another hobby
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Re: Port Alberni Sockeye
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2017, 10:29:04 AM »

iron nog?? you better give your nog a shake.foolish comments very foolish.Just be happy it's open and there's way more fish than predicted. It's actually great to see when the fish come back in numbers that are efficient to fish. ohh and by the way the commercial gillnet fleet took maybe 4000 pieces, so if you think in your nog that will make the difference on you catching your daily limit of 4, you should take up another hobby

You simply don't get it do you?
"Way more fish than predicted"?
No, not the case.
The original prediction was slightly less than 200K.
Now with slightly more than that, it is suddenly all sunshine and roses?
Hardly!  ::)

FYI: In this instance, the two local bands were the first to step up and suggest no-one fish the sockeye run due to low returning predictions. When the number approached 200K, the FN's continued to advise restraint. It was Jimmy P and the gillnetters that applied HEAVY pressure to get it opened. Due to reduced stocks coast wide, the commercial sector is seeing damn few openings. That drives the price through the ceiling, and of course they are well aware of that. So, the few they might catch here are worth a lot of jingle. As a consequence they turned up the heat as high as they could muster to get the Inlet opened. NOT the FN's. NOT the sporties.

Jimmy has a very long history of persuasion regarding fisheries openings, and the department, especially here, has a long history of catering directly to that persuasion. The results are obvious here - widely fluctuating run sizes, ever increasing incidences of critically low numbers of fish returning, and questionable openings on bare minimal returns. Sad situation.

Of course the sporties eventually caved in - as did the FN's. So once again it is "business as usual" and the "slay them" mentality once again rules the day.

Your assumption regarding my own activities could not possibly be any farther from reality. Myself, and a good handful of buddies that know the inlet, know how to fish sockeye extremely well and have done so for years are NOT partaking whatsoever in this travesty. Regardless of which sector one identifies with IT IS THE WRONG THING TO DO. Period.
Why? Because your other assumption that the sockeye have returned in sufficient numbers to allow multi-sector harvesting is also WRONG. In fact, a Total FAIL regarding pretty much all of what you posted.

The writing is already on the wall, and this resource will not withstand a hell of a lot more of that kind of abuse before it faces collapse.

Sickening...
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Re: Port Alberni Sockeye
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2017, 03:18:50 PM »

And... With 220K up the ditch, it is time to unleash Jimmy's seiners for a four day opening (with extensions)!

http://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm?pg=view_notice&DOC_ID=198364&ID=all

Of course even with the near complete lack of four year olds, and not at the escapement target for the recognizably reduced run, DFO decided to "upgrade" by 50,000 pieces to make this so.  ::)

Damn Sad Times to be a sockeye here...  :'(

Pissed,
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Re: Port Alberni Sockeye
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2017, 08:12:03 PM »

nog why are you so passionate about this run? I think it would help if we knew a bit of your back story
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Re: Port Alberni Sockeye
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2017, 11:15:56 AM »

Passionate about any run really.
This one simply happens to be right in my back yard.
And I have well seen just what it is capable of when managed correctly.

Cheers,
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