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[IronNoggin]

Here is your opportunity to let the entire House know you are NOT happy with Trudeau and Goodale's anything but gangs and violence bill that only further targets and restricts legal firearm owners in Canada.

The more support, the better.

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-1608

Cheers & THANKS!
Nog

[joshhowat]

Done

[bravo252]

Done.

[Noahs Arc]

Done thanks

[IronNoggin]

We are ahead of Alberta by ten for the first time.
A little over 11,000 signatures and climbing.

Keep this one going Folks!
Many Thanks for those helping by signing & sharing!

Forward!!!
Nog

[halcyonguitars]

Not too sure what the changes are but what the hell...

[IronNoggin]

Not too sure what the changes are but what the hell...

OK -    

I am going to present a case by case review of the pertinent issues contained in the new proposed Bill C - 71

First up - Regarding the Registry the Liberals continue to lie about not creating.

Re: Individuals:

    When you sell a gun, you have to get an authorization number from CFC to track the purchase. That authorization number will follow that gun and new owner, and CFC now has a record of who owns the firearm in perpetuity.

    Authorization to transfer non-restricted firearms

    23 (1) A person may transfer a non-restricted firearm if, at the time of the transfer,
    (a) the transferee holds a licence authorizing the transferee to acquire and possess a non-restricted firearm;
    (b) the Registrar has, at the transferor’s request, issued a reference number for the transfer and provided it to the transferor; and
    (c) the reference number is still valid.

Regarding Store / Business Sales:

    58.‍1(1)A chief firearms officer who issues a licence to a business must attach the following conditions to the licence:
    (a)the business must record and, for the prescribed period, keep the prescribed information that relates to the business’ possession and disposal of non-restricted firearms;
    (b)the business must record and — for a period of 20 years from the day on which the business transfers a non-restricted firearm, or for a longer period that may be prescribed — keep the following information in respect of the transfer:
    (i)the reference number issued by the Registrar,
    (ii)the day on which the reference number was issued,
    (iii)the transferee’s licence number, and
    (iv)the firearm’s make, model and type and, if any, its serial number; and
    (c)the business must, unless otherwise directed by a chief firearms officer, transmit any records containing the information referred to in paragraph (a) or (b) to a prescribed official if it is determined that the business will cease to be a business.

Amendments to the Act that ended the previous long gun registry:

    Ending the Long-gun Registry Act

    Amendments to the Act

    2015, c. 36, s. 230

    23 (1) Subsection 29(3) of the Ending the Long-gun Registry Act is deemed never to have been amended by section 230 of the Economic Action Plan 2015 Act, No. 1.

    2015, c. 36, s. 230

    (2) Subsections 29(4) to (7) of the Ending the Long-gun Registry Act are deemed never to have come into force and are repealed.

    2015, c. 36, s. 231

    24 Section 30 of the Ending the Long-gun Registry Act is deemed never to have come into force and is repealed.

What this means is the liberals are nullifying the Act that abolished the previous Registry, which intentionally gives them room to re-work the Registry and bring it back to full application. It further allows the government to retain the long gun registry data which was supposedly destroyed years ago (yet obviously and illegally has been held in secret to this point).

In summary, what Bill C - 71 proposes is nothing short of creating a new Registry, and leaves the door open for expansion of the same. Goodale can deny this all he wants, lying is after all what most politicians do best.

Goodale also insists that RCMP will not have access to the Business record Registry (note the deafening silence regarding the CFC Records / Registry regarding Private Sales) without a warrant. This is either a lie or a fairly major oversight, because section 102 of the Firearms Act allows for inspection of a businesses records on fairly broad basis, including copying details. These records will be easily available to the CFO, and subsequently to the RCMP sans any discussion of a warrant. There are far too many relevant cases of historical abuse to cite here. Suffice it to say that serious questions exist regarding the validity of Goodale's statements in this regard, as well as the RCMP's compliance with the same.

More to come...

[IronNoggin]

Second: The case of "enhanced" background checks.

Let me first note that I am not opposed, and actually in favor of background checks for people requesting a Firearm License or renewing the same. Within Reason.

Part 1 of this Act amends the Firearms Act to, among other things,
(a)remove the reference to the five-year period, set out in subsection 5(2) of that Act, that applies to the mandatory consideration of certain eligibility criteria for holding a licence;

Elimination of the 5 year criteria for considering eligibility is concerning. Virtually all firearm owners at one point have lost a job, suffered a breakdown of a relationship, etc. This sets up an extremely wide range of excuses to deny License applications or renewals. A fight in high school 20 years ago, the boss you told off and walked off the job 20 years ago, that prescription a doctor wrote you 20 years ago... all of these could lead to ineligibility and revocation by the letter of the law.

Goodale himself openly admits that such "transgressions" even twenty years old or older will now "have to be taken into consideration" in every case.

Far reaching, quite onerous, and appears to be explicitly designed to deny as many applicants as possible on negligible and seriously dated grounds.

More to come...

[IronNoggin]

Third: Transferring the Classification of Firearms among the three current classes over Entirely to the RCMP

Part 1 also amends the Criminal Code to repeal the authority of the Governor in Council to prescribe by regulation that a prohibited or restricted firearm be a non-restricted firearm or that a prohibited firearm be a restricted firearm and, in consequence, the Part

(a)repeals certain provisions of regulations made under the Criminal Code...

To be clear: This is not a component aimed at allowing the RCMP to re-reclassify the Swiss Arms and CZ858 rifles. That ability was granted to the RCMP when the government rescinded Minister Blaney’s directive protecting said rifles in 2016. As a result, we can infer that this component is more sweeping, and looks to fully remove all government oversight over firearms classification. This move represents a gross abdication of the government’s responsibility to the electorate.

Moving forward we can expect the RCMP to classify firearms based on the legislation dictating their classification. Unfortunately, the legislation dictating prohibited and restricted classes both conclude with the unfortunate catch-all lines “a firearm of any other kind that is prescribed to be a [restricted or prohibited] firearm.” In other words, the legislation the RCMP will be forced to adhere to does not force them to adhere to any actual limitations when making their determinations. The RCMP can (and will) simply prescribe a currently non-restricted firearm to be prohibited, and so it shall be, with no oversight on these decisions coming from the Ministry of Public Safety.

Beyond the lack of oversight, the possibility of reclassifying any firearm once the RCMP have decided where they want it to sit becomes impossible. There will be NO fallback mechanism whatsoever.

Section 12 is further amended by creating a new blanket grandfathering clause that can be done by regulation. This suggests that the current government may intend to prohibit more firearms in future. However, it also suggests that they may grandfather in existing owners. This is a big warning sign for gun owners going forward. These firearms will also be excluded from the automatic ATT provisions. However, the new category of grandfathered firearms are not necessarily barred from being issued an ATT. This creates an uneven patchwork of laws that is exactly the opposite direction our firearms laws should be going.

FAR too sweeping powers afforded to the entity that has already shown it is predisposed to prohibitions based upon "looks" alone. All semi automatic hunting rifles and shotguns share the same action as pretty well every semi-automatic currently on the Restricted & Prohibited List. This leaves the door wide open for those hunting tools to also be subject of increasingly restrictive classifications, based solely upon the whim of the RCMP.

More to come...

[IronNoggin]

Fourth: Changes to the Authorization To Transport (ATT) Permits Process

Part 1 of this Act amends the Firearms Act to, among other things,

(c)remove certain automatic authorizations to transport prohibited and restricted firearms.

Automatic ATTs for prohibited firearms are being stricken, meaning they can not be taken to ranges. Those who have 12(6) firearms (short-barreled handguns) and who have registered as collectors will also not be issued an ATT that allows range trips for those firearms.

Automatic ATT's for restricted firearms (handguns, AR-15's etc) will only be issued for the purpose of taking them from the place of purchase to one's home, and to and return from the nearest gun range. Trips to gunsmiths, gun shops, gun shows, out of province ranges, or border crossings will have to be issued an ATT on an individual and by case basis.

The decision to reduce the scope of the LTATT again seems to be little more than a measure aimed at adding additional layers of bureaucracy to the process of owning guns. No criminal has ever obtained an ATT to use a gun for a criminal act. Shootings are not carried out in the locations existing LTATT verbiage allows guns to be transported to (when was the last time you heard about a shooting in a gun shop, gun smith’s, or border crossing?). This is pure and unadulterated lip service for those voters that do no know what the existing laws are, with a side of making gun ownership more onerous, and less appealing to would-be sport shooters.

All current ATT's will become null and void the day this Bill passes. That will create a backlog at the Chief Firearms' Officer Office the like of which has never seen seen before. It will literally take months upon months to clear that, and for the full duration, legally licensed firearms owners will be prevented from taking their firearms out of their homes for any purpose whatsoever. This too is intentional, creating yet one more deterrent for aspiring and active sports shooters.

More to come...

[IronNoggin]

Here is the link to the bill itself: http://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/C-71/first-reading

There is absolutely NOTHING in what the liberals propose designed to target gangs, gang violence, or even firearm violence in general. Nothing.

In fact is has been carefully crafted to be disruptive and onerous on legal firearm ownership in Canada. This is intentional, and fits well with the Trudeau government's continuing anti-gun stance. It is obvious that the effects of loading the Liberal Firearms Committee with anti-gun personnel also worked well with their overall agenda of making firearm ownership as problematic as possible.

At this point, the door is now open for much wider sweeping bans to be imposed, and the RCMP are gleefully lining up to do just that. With no possibility of reversing any decision they make in error.

Hand in hand with this announcement was the notice given that UN Marking Requirements would be introduced at another time down the road. The UN itself has declared numerous times it wants to see all firearms taken from the hands of citizens, and only in the hands of police and military (and of course the criminals which they choose to conveniently forget). Trudeau is catering to them for a position that will not be forthcoming. He has failed in that attempt as he has in so many others. Yet we are supposed to march forward with compliance with the UN Marking Program. Every single firearm made today bears a Serial Number that is traceable world wide. But the UN and Trudeau want to see more numbers engraved onto guns to make them even more track-able. Yeah, that's about as stupid in function as it is simply saying it: A complete waste of time and money - Something else Trudeau is damn good at.

The bill as presented in an utter and complete FAILURE in terms of addressing what the politicos publicly voice the reasons for it's development. It does on the other hand suit their ongoing agenda of driving honest people away from firearm ownership, and that apparently suits them just fine.

There is a site I posted previously through which you can voice your discontent with these developments to those that need to hear them. I added in the following in the Email and letters I have already sent:

Another thing for you to consider regarding history. The saying that those who fail to learn and understand history are doomed to repeat it is truer than most will ever realize. Realize this: Without fail, every government that has brought in major changes to Canada's gun laws were shown to the curb the following election. Is that where you wish to end up in 2019?

Once again here is that link: http://oneclearvoice.ca/

And a little piece of advice for any owners feeling the heat. Insurance can be a damn useful tool under the right conditions:

https://firearmrights.ca/en/insurance/

A little more yet...

[IronNoggin]

In my mind's eye, selling us a new Get Tough On Crime Bill that:
Is silent regarding gang crime,
Is silent on border firearms smuggling,
Is silent on ensuring current criminal firearms laws already on the books are strictly adhered to,
Is silent regarding penalties for crimes committed with the employ of firearms,
was and is in fact selling us a Bill of Goods.

It is nothing short of harassment of law abiding citizens in order to garner votes from the vast majority with little understanding of the gist of the matter.
And done so in the most vilifying methods possible, including outright lying from both the PM and Goodale.
Shameful indeed.
But once again not at all out of character for this particular government.

The Petition to call them to task for this travesty is here: https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-1608

Cheers,
Nog

[Sabre]

Done

[IronNoggin]

70,000 and Climbing!! 
Makes the the second most signed official petition to government in history!
Let's see if we can it the FIRST!!

Related:

By conflating gang violence with gun violence, Bill C-71 breaks the government’s repeated promises that criminal legislation will rely upon “evidence-based decision making.” Bill C-71 exaggerates the problem with guns by relying upon false assumptions to target law-abiding citizens instead of criminals.

Bill C-71 is a red herring. The real problem, ignored in this bill, is gang violence.  Bill C-71 focuses on PAL holders, not violent criminals. Hunters and sport shooters are not the problem. Legal guns are not a major conduit for criminals to get guns. The public is not at risk from law-abiding PAL holders.

The additional regulatory complexity created by Bill C-71 will increase demands upon government services and increase costs to taxpayers. This can only reduce public safety.

http://gundebate.ca/c-71-analysis-submission-federal-parliamentary-standing-committee-public-safety-national-security-bill-c-71/

Cheers,
Nog