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[Blood_Orange]

I was under the impression that fish in the Sumas were unsafe to eat due to the naturally-occurring asbestos in the river. Leaches out from an old landslide in WA, I think.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/natural-asbestos-in-abbotsford-river-could-be-a-health-concern

Reading this article, doesn't seem like anyone's looking too hard at the issue right now.

[clarki]

Also Willband Creek Park in Abbotsford has carp. The ones I've seen caught there have been on worms.

In fact, worms was my bait of choice when fishing for carp back in Ontario. In the spring I would catch carp that came into the tribs of Lake Huron. These were big lake-run fish, up to 36". Gosh that was fun.

[RalphH]

My old swimming hole when i was a kid...  had to dodge the floating cow poop though....

Landed  coho not too far from there when i was a kid.....

once it had a good coho run into Lonzo creek and up past the #1 Rest Stop. The first half of November was best.

[Darko]

I was under the impression that fish in the Sumas were unsafe to eat due to the naturally-occurring asbestos in the river. Leaches out from an old landslide in WA, I think.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/natural-asbestos-in-abbotsford-river-could-be-a-health-concern

Reading this article, doesn't seem like anyone's looking too hard at the issue right now.

I did some research a couple months ago and what I concluded is that any asbestos that end up in those fish will be in the organs of the fish mainly the liver, which in 99% of scenarios people arent consuming so the danger wouldn't be from there. Instead, I read that actually fishing near the water the asbestos can actually enter the air around it from the water when it dries up on the land and such so the danger is actually breathing it in being around the water. That is just what I had concluded reading many different articles and it make sense to me although I am not a scientist, just a very curious person

[Blood_Orange]

I did some research a couple months ago and what I concluded is that any asbestos that end up in those fish will be in the organs of the fish mainly the liver, which in 99% of scenarios people arent consuming so the danger wouldn't be from there. Instead, I read that actually fishing near the water the asbestos can actually enter the air around it from the water when it dries up on the land and such so the danger is actually breathing it in being around the water. That is just what I had concluded reading many different articles and it make sense to me although I am not a scientist, just a very curious person

Good to know. I'd always thought the danger was in eating the fish but your comment (and the article above) indicates that the danger is in aerosolizing the dried river sediment and then breathing it in. I wonder if the flooding on Sumas Prairie this winter spread the asbestos into the fields in any meaningful amounts. Probably not... glad I could answer my own question

[Darko]

Good to know. I'd always thought the danger was in eating the fish but your comment (and the article above) indicates that the danger is in aerosolizing the dried river sediment and then breathing it in. I wonder if the flooding on Sumas Prairie this winter spread the asbestos into the fields in any meaningful amounts. Probably not... glad I could answer my own question

I honestly believe it is very likely. It is a very interesting topic and one that requires more expertise than I have. My physics teacher actually used to be a water management engineer so I will talk it over with her and see what she thinks. Maybe she might have an insight or two.

[Roderick]

I went to Deer lake in Burnaby for the first time, maybe 10 years ago, looking for trout.  When I got to the dock there was a guy fishing with a bobber right in close.  He was using a tiny hook baited with bread and was catching numerous small carp.  He said that if you didn't get a bite right away it was because your bait was gone.  I had no luck catching trout but the guy was kind enough to give me half a slice of bread and I hooked in to a few before the end of the day.  Haven't been lately so I can't say what it's like now. 

[sumasriver]

Caught Carp in the Sumas canal as a kid....  used to just use Dew Worms.

[Hike_and_fish]

Guides Chum all the time. It's illegal and yet quite common. Even bait fishermen "Chum" the waters. I've always been an anti bait person since fishing bait is especially a form of Chumming.

[Darko]

Guides Chum all the time. It's illegal and yet quite common. Even bait fishermen "Chum" the waters. I've always been an anti bait person since fishing bait is especially a form of Chumming.

There are carp guides in BC? Must be a small market 

[Arkatek]

There are carp guides in BC? Must be a small market 

Steven from first light fishing and tackle would be a prime carp guide.