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Rodney

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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2022, 10:19:27 AM »

You can go back a few years on this forum and see the outrage and people demanding closures to protect steelhead. I guess you its a careful what you wish for situation.

and probably why ROD did an LOL

Pretty much. ;D

Can you post up the link of the doc where you're getting the IFS dates from please? I'm having these conversations about this year's hatchery coho opening times and I can't seem to find the most updated dates. Thanks.

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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2022, 10:24:40 AM »

Pretty much. ;D

Can you post up the link of the doc where you're getting the IFS dates from please? I'm having these conversations about this year's hatchery coho opening times and I can't seem to find the most updated dates. Thanks.

https://waves-vagues.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/library-bibliotheque/4106110x.pdf

"Recreational fishing for Coho will be closed in the tidal waters of the Fraser River and in nontidal waters of the Fraser River in Region 2 from January 1 at least until the end of the IFR
Steelhead window closure"

Table 13.3-4: IFR Steelhead Rolling Window Closure Dates for the Fraser
River Recreational Fishery

Mouth to Port Mann Bridge 19-Sep 30-Oct
Port Mann Bridge to Mission 21-Sep 1-Nov
Mission to Hope 22-Sep 2-Nov
Hope to Sawmill Creek 26-Sep 6-Nov
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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2022, 10:40:37 AM »

Thanks!

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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2022, 10:44:36 AM »

You can go back a few years on this forum and see the outrage and people demanding closures to protect steelhead. I guess you its a careful what you wish for situation.

and probably why ROD did an LOL

LOL I'm all for it. The state of our interior steelhead is dire so much needed.
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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2022, 11:55:30 AM »

It would be nice to see an earlier opening for Coho in the tidal Fraser. Maybe a non bait opening at first then leading to a bait rec fishery later on after the steelhead of concern have passed. I have never caught a steelhead in the tidal portion of the fraser but do see the concern when using bait that a steelhead might take a bite. I have also never caught a steelhead in the open ocean ether. Has anyone caught a steelhead in the ocean or tidal areas of the fraser?
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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2022, 12:30:45 PM »

Many moons ago while trolling for springs in North Bentinck Arm out of Bella Coola we caught a monster steelhead. Quite a surprise.
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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2022, 12:57:06 PM »

It would be nice to see an earlier opening for Coho in the tidal Fraser. Maybe a non bait opening at first then leading to a bait rec fishery later on after the steelhead of concern have passed. I have never caught a steelhead in the tidal portion of the fraser but do see the concern when using bait that a steelhead might take a bite. I have also never caught a steelhead in the open ocean ether. Has anyone caught a steelhead in the ocean or tidal areas of the fraser?

I've seen a steelhead caught in Haida Gwaii trolling for springs.
A friend of mine caught a steelhead bar fishing for coho in the tidal fraser a few years ago
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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2022, 02:02:04 PM »

I miss those bar fishing days few minutes from my house. Thermos of coffee or a couple cold beers depending on wether it was a morning tide or afternoon tide. Relaxed in a lawn chair. Pleasant days.
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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2022, 05:00:28 PM »

Has anyone caught a steelhead in the ocean or tidal areas of the fraser?
Yes. Back in the 80s when steelhead were plentiful and there was no closures. We bar fished at Brownsville using fresh chum roe from Berries Baits for cohos. Ivan Berrys store was the closest tackle shop to us living in Surrey at the time. Ivan always always greeted you with a smile. What a great fishery that was. It’s really pathetic you can’t bar fish anymore for salmon. There was a lot of old timers and colourful characters back in those days and everybody knew each other by name. I terribly miss those days.
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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2022, 05:41:00 PM »

Fred, Curly, Scott Paper Mike, Barnacle Bill , Mr Gibson and Joe just to name a few from the 80's.  Good old days on Brownsville Bar.
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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2022, 05:45:32 PM »

I am willing to bet there will be Gill nets in the fraser during those windows. Opening or not. There will be nets. For the slim chance of catching a steelhead. Chances are probably so low. Ridiculous in my opinion. It was never bar fishing that killed the steelhead or continue to. It is the relentless netting of the river.
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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2022, 06:44:41 PM »

Fred, Curly, Scott Paper Mike, Barnacle Bill , Mr Gibson and Joe just to name a few from the 80's.  Good old days on Brownsville Bar.
You were there! Also Little Paul and Bullsh@t Larry the king of jacks. That dude caught so many coho jacks it was unreal. Lol
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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2022, 07:06:25 PM »

Yes I was there.  I would get dropped off by my dad or ride my bike down the hill from 96 Ave.  Then at 16 I got my first car and started driving down to the bar.  The old guys always made a spot for me to fish.  As a young person my experience was always good.  Still to today I will go down to the bar and give coho fishing a go when it opens.  I now fish Glen Valley area, when it is open.
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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2022, 07:27:30 PM »

I never fished Brownsville being from Richmond always bar fished the north arm. My dad and Ivan Berry were close friends and have many great memories hanging out with my dad, Ivan and his son mike. Camping, fishing and hanging out at the house/store on Westminster hwy.
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Re: Increased coho numbers
« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2022, 09:16:50 AM »

there were far more steelhead taken, and usually killed, from the bars above the Vedder mouth before the Province set the regulation for release of all wild steelhead. From about the mid 60s into the 80s I fished mostly Duncan, MacMillan Island and to a lesser extent Glen valley. In all those yearsI never saw a steelhead taken though many claimed to catch them. There was a small group of people who fished Duncan through the winter and did catch steelhead. Another I met said they caught "summer steelhead" in June and July at Brownsville, a bar I never fished.
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