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fish4

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Re: I KNOW DUMB ??
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2023, 11:48:47 AM »
Quote from: danielk on July 14, 2023, 12:55:55 PM
Is this what you’re looking for ?

https://frasersalmon.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2023-Forum-2-Day-2-FR-SK-and-PK-Escapement-Planning-Forum-2023-03-01.pdf
thanks If I could only understand what the results are that would be great, thanks though will try to figure it out
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Re: I KNOW DUMB ??
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2023, 04:35:36 PM »
One thing I did notice from the report is that the Fraser water level is at a record low for this date at about half the average.  Not good. 
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Re: I KNOW DUMB ??
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2023, 05:15:50 PM »
Quote from: Roderick on July 15, 2023, 04:35:36 PM
One thing I did notice from the report is that the Fraser water level is at a record low for this date at about half the average.  Not good.
is this due to snowpack? I remember some saying in a previous thread that this year does not have enough snowpack and some saying it is? certainly doesn't look good for interior fish...
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Re: I KNOW DUMB ??
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2023, 05:34:02 PM »
Quote from: Darko on July 15, 2023, 05:15:50 PM
is this due to snowpack? I remember some saying in a previous thread that this year does not have enough snowpack and some saying it is? certainly doesn't look good for interior fish...

partially - we are however in the midst of a drought that is close to 3 months old. May and June are often wet and cool months but not this year. That melted much of the snow pack.
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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2023, 07:33:45 PM »
Provide-wide, per the April 1 snowpack report, the snowpack was only slightly below average, yet there were also some Fraser basin snowpacks that were above average.

And remember that the Fraser was running at its lowest level in over 100 years, a metre below normal, since Fall, 2022.

It was also a weird freshet that peaked in May, almost a month early.

The freshet has come and gone yet there hasn’t been the rainfall to recharge the headwaters and tribs of the system, so with the freshet over the river is dropping back to it’s previous low levels.

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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2023, 08:21:12 PM »
the historic peak of the freshet for the Fraser was early June (3rd to the 10th). This year it was May 20 so perhaps 2 weeks early or a little more. We had unseasonably warm weather late April and into May which caused that.  The last few years warm dry springs have been more common perhaps due to La Nina and similar ocean patterns along with Pacific Ocean warm water blobs etc
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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2023, 08:59:18 PM »
My “almost” and your “a little more” puts us on the same day in June!  ;)
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2023, 07:47:08 AM »
I found this from the Kanaka Bar Indian Band had prepared from water readings at Hope and Texas creek:

https://www.kanakabarband.ca/files/sept-2022-water-quality.pdf

from 1913 to 2016

average maximum discharge date : June 11th

earliest May 1 1934

Latest July 23, 2001

overall no trends are discernible in water levels etc

looks at a lot of other factors as well

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Re: I KNOW DUMB ??
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2023, 10:02:21 AM »
Quote from: fish4 on July 14, 2023, 12:25:01 PM
so over the years regardless of the ##'s there has always been some info posted on the Sockeye situation put nothing this year WHY

I was going to post it up but the outlook is pretty bleak and probably won't be an opening so i said why bother.

Just assume anything to do with fraser salmon will be close.
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2023, 10:09:33 AM »
Quote from: RalphH on July 16, 2023, 07:47:08 AM
I found this from the Kanaka Bar Indian Band had prepared from water readings at Hope and Texas creek:

https://www.kanakabarband.ca/files/sept-2022-water-quality.pdf

from 1913 to 2016

average maximum discharge date : June 11th

earliest May 1 1934

Latest July 23, 2001

overall no trends are discernible in water levels etc

looks at a lot of other factors as well

I find it interesting that the latest was relatively recently, I wonder if it was related to a rain event
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