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Sam Salmon

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Very Bad News For Salmon Across the World
« on: September 12, 2005, 09:13:35 AM »

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/northwest/story/5159903p-4693122c.html

Last salmon could die by 2100

JEFF BARNARD; The Associated Press
Published: September 7th, 2005 12:01 AM
GRANTS PASS, Ore. – Too many people using too much energy and natural resources make it inevitable that wild Pacific salmon will become extinct over the next century without a major overhaul in the way people live their lives, a group of 30 scientists, policy analysts and advocates concluded.
“If you look at the four places on the planet that salmon runs originally occurred – the Asian Far East, Europe, Eastern North America and Western North America – as the numbers of people increased, the numbers of salmon went down,” said Robert Lackey, a salmon biologist for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in Corvallis, Ore., and one of the organizers of the project. “You can’t have high salmon runs – wild salmon runs – and all these people and their standard of living.”

The Salmon 2100 Project will be presented at the 135th annual meeting of the American Fisheries Society next week in Anchorage, Ala.

William Rees, a population ecologist at the University of British Columbia who developed the theory of the ecological footprint, said the extinction of salmon is inevitable as long as human populations continue to increase, leaving less energy and resources for all other species, including the fish. The decline of salmon is a minor regional symptom of a global problem, he added.

“Even if we in the Pacific Northwest come to agreement to slow down our growth, to totally conserve the remaining primary salmon habitat, if the rest of the world carries on in its present development path it won’t do any good,” Rees said. “Because climate change may result in warming of the North Pacific to the extent that salmon migration routes and feeding resources are diminished.”

The contributors are primarily scientists from universities and state and federal agencies, plus a few policy analysts and advocates from environmental groups, a law firm and a consulting firm.

“Our goal is that in 2050 or 2100 we don’t want somebody to look back and say, ‘Gee, we didn’t understand what was happening. If somebody told us this was happening we would have made different policy choices,’” Lackey said. “If this is the path society is going down, we want to make sure everybody understands.”

The proposals include new and familiar ideas: imposing an extinction tax on parties responsible, creating refuges to protect the healthiest runs, converting the primary role of hydroelectric dams from energy production to managing river flows for salmon and giving up on saving runs too close to extinction.

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Re: Very Bad News For Salmon Across the World
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2005, 10:21:58 AM »


“Our goal is that in 2050 or 2100 we don’t want somebody to look back and say, ‘Gee, we didn’t understand what was happening. If somebody told us this was happening we would have made different policy choices,’” Lackey said. “If this is the path society is going down, we want to make sure everybody understands.”


Exactly.

My question is have we not seen enough already or do we need to wait a while longer until it is very desperate before shaping up or applying pressure on those who need to shape up.
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Re: Very Bad News For Salmon Across the World
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2005, 10:30:12 AM »

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“Because climate change may result in warming of the North Pacific to the extent that salmon migration routes and feeding resources are diminished.”

Not entirley true. While global warming is extripating salmon from their southernmost habitats it is also giving them access to new northern water that were once too cold. 50 years ago no one had ever seen a salmon on the Mackenzie. Now it has thriving chum and pink runs and just recently a sockeye was documented.
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Re: Very Bad News For Salmon Across the World
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2005, 10:41:01 AM »

Keep in mind evolution and extinction are 2 forces that have in in play for eons and continue to play roles in shaping the composition of species on this planet.

I do think something needs to be done to minimise our impact on the system, but as mentioned, extinction is a process that is a nutural part of our world - we just need to reduce our contribution in that arena.

With extinction, often holes are left in the eco system which gives opportunities to new organisms as biff noted with the salmon showing up in Mackenzie. 
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Re: Very Bad News For Salmon Across the World
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2005, 12:36:29 PM »

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extripating salmon

...you mean extirpating?
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Re: Very Bad News For Salmon Across the World
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2005, 04:36:37 PM »

Just think of all those new fish that like warm water that will be here!
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Re: Very Bad News For Salmon Across the World
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2005, 05:13:14 PM »

Just think of all those new fish that like warm water that will be here!

Barracuda and bonefishing from Spanish Banks!

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Re: Very Bad News For Salmon Across the World
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2005, 06:23:02 PM »

Just think of all those new fish that like warm water that will be here!

Barracuda and bonefishing from Spanish Banks!

I'm in for that ! ;)
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Re: Very Bad News For Salmon Across the World
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2005, 09:26:53 PM »

Just think of all those new fish that like warm water that will be here!

Barracuda and bonefishing from Spanish Banks!

I'm in for that ! ;)
and all those great whites nipping at their heels :(
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