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[chris gadsden]

Great Chris glad to hear, but the they arent where i am cause they would have sore hands writing tickets, I know they cant be in 3 places at once

Very important to phone the FOC report line as all this information is recorded and they may also check it out. The awareness is out there now there is lots of concerns so keep the calls going in. Maybe tell me the spot also so I can catch a coho. Just kidding.

I will get to finally handle a coho today as helping with a fertilazation project on the Chillliwack today.

[casinoJim]

  Show people how to short float, watch as  they catch a few fish, and then you have converts (in the ideal world). Show them what kind of water to look for when fishing cohos, springs etc and stay away from the gong shows.

If you truly mean what you say...(write) Post some pictures of ideal Coho water and pictures of water to stay away from.

Send these people into good fish holding water with the knowlege of short floating and let nature take its course.
CJ.

[Old Black Dog]

it seems that they are only worried about people with out licenses, what about snaggers and un sportmanship counduct

They work within the law.

Snagging is breaking the law.
Unsportsman like conduct? What are you talking about?

[Nicole]

  Show people how to short float, watch as  they catch a few fish, and then you have converts (in the ideal world). Show them what kind of water to look for when fishing cohos, springs etc and stay away from the gong shows.

If you truly mean what you say...(write) Post some pictures of ideal Coho water and pictures of water to stay away from.

Send these people into good fish holding water with the knowlege of short floating and let nature take its course.
CJ.

Hmmm, my selfish side wants to keep the coho friendly water a secret though... It seems as though people are bypassing it in exchange for the more obvious pools with the springs splashing all over...

I walked by numerous spring ripping sites yesterday, those guys are not what I'm after, and I'm happy to see concentrations of anglers all crowding around those spots, leaving the coho for me... I hooked fish in areas yesterday were absent of any anglers and I was able to fish a ton of good flywater... It was awesome...

Cheers,
Nicole

[chris gadsden]

This was discussed in depth at the SFAC meeting tonight, a 7 member committee was struck to try and deal with this issue, another meeting to attend. This makes two groups now working on ideas to try and improve the present situations.

A lot of disgust expressed by many with the current situation on the Chilliwack Vedder.

FOC and the CO have been out in force the last while with numerous tickets handed out. Undercover work also. As well checking at the border crossings have lead to some tickets issued.

They are out there you may not just see them hiding in the bushes.

First meeting held today, a two hour meeting. Most everyone in attendance agreed changes have to be made. A number of suggestions were listed, many that were posted on this thread. Thanks to Buck for getting it going a while back. Most at the meeting had read your posts and they thank you for them.

Another meeting is to be held early Dec. to finish the report and forward on the recommendations.

The first SFAC sub committee meeting goes in a couple of weeks. Many thought no changes would happen but I believe we will see some that will move sports angling back to what it should be in my mind anyway. For those interested stay tunned.

[sassygrams]

We also need to understand that hatchery programs the funding comes from fishing license.  If we change the regulation how will the current funding level be effected?  Would this actually be better?  One question I do wonder is how many people out there fishing actually bought a fishing license w/ salmon stamp?

   I am new to this salmon fishing and I bought my licence and my stamp - even though I catch & release, Just thought for the extra few bucks it would be worth the remote possibility of taking something 'legal' home.... 

[chris gadsden]

This was discussed in depth at the SFAC meeting tonight, a 7 member committee was struck to try and deal with this issue, another meeting to attend. This makes two groups now working on ideas to try and improve the present situations.

A lot of disgust expressed by many with the current situation on the Chilliwack Vedder.

FOC and the CO have been out in force the last while with numerous tickets handed out. Undercover work also. As well checking at the border crossings have lead to some tickets issued.

They are out there you may not just see them hiding in the bushes.

First meeting held today, a two hour meeting. Most everyone in attendance agreed changes have to be made. A number of suggestions were listed, many that were posted on this thread. Thanks to Buck for getting it going a while back. Most at the meeting had read your posts and they thank you for them.

Another meeting is to be held early Dec. to finish the report and forward on the recommendations.

The first SFAC sub committee meeting goes in a couple of weeks. Many thought no changes would happen but I believe we will see some that will move sports angling back to what it should be in my mind anyway. For those interested stay tunned.

A small update on this topic as I try and like to keep those interested in the loop the best I can.The first SFAC sub committee meeting was held last night, as it was the first meeting I donot have too much that I can report. The chairman of this committee is on this forum so I will allow him the courtesy to post some info if he wishes although in all fairness to him not too much too report as yet. It looks like this committee will have many meetings to follow. As I have mentioned before all posts on this thread have been read by some committee members so all your thoughts and time spent typing them have been appreciated. Thanks to everyone of you on this forum and others who have contributed on both sides of the debate.

I can say agreement was made to book a booth at the Sportsman show in March at Abbotsford where further input can made by anglers as well. It will be a joint effort of this sub committee, The BC Federation of Drift Fishers, FVSS and the Chilliwack Fish and Game Protective Association. I personally am pleased this is going to happen

I believe a questionnaire will be developed at the next meeting in January to be provided at the show for those interested to fill out and add comments as well.

On the other front The Chilliwack River Watershed Strategy dealing with angler ethics on the Chilliwack Vedder will hold their second meeting this week. It is progressing along well I think and it will be the up to the chair to release the committee's recommendations. I of course will try to get these recommendations to this forum when I get the okay from the chair and committee to do so.

Stay tunned, it looks like a fairly long process.

[2:40]

A long, but very encouraging process so far.

I feel that something good will come of it to help angling and keep it strong and alive.

[leadbelly]

thanks for the update, man i don't know how you can keep up with so many different groups and meetings etc.
The booth a the sportsmans show sounds similar the the one the had a few year ago by Fisheries i think, they had a chalk board you could write comments on about different issues like the problems on the Fraser etc.
Wow I made Old Timer Status

[chris gadsden]

thanks for the update, man i don't know how you can keep up with so many different groups and meetings etc.
The booth a the sportsmans show sounds similar the the one the had a few year ago by Fisheries i think, they had a chalk board you could write comments on about different issues like the problems on the Fraser etc.
Wow I made Old Timer Status

Yes Linda talked about the board at the meeting on Thursday. I will ask to see what was written as the committee should see it too.  Thanks Ray for the note about it, I had forgotton about it already.

[Old Black Dog]

thanks for the update, man i don't know how you can keep up with so many different groups and meetings etc.
The booth a the sportsmans show sounds similar the the one the had a few year ago by Fisheries i think, they had a chalk board you could write comments on about different issues like the problems on the Fraser etc.
Wow I made Old Timer Status

Yes Linda talked about the board at the meeting on Thursday. I will ask to see what was written as the committee should see it too.  Thanks Ray for the note about it, I had forgotton about it already.

You should Chris as I remember a lot of anglers that are not on the web or belong to a club wrote comments.
However you may not like the results.

[chris gadsden]

thanks for the update, man i don't know how you can keep up with so many different groups and meetings etc.
The booth a the sportsmans show sounds similar the the one the had a few year ago by Fisheries i think, they had a chalk board you could write comments on about different issues like the problems on the Fraser etc.
Wow I made Old Timer Status

Yes Linda talked about the board at the meeting on Thursday. I will ask to see what was written as the committee should see it too.  Thanks Ray for the note about it, I had forgotton about it already.

You should Chris as I remember a lot of anglers that are not on the web or belong to a club wrote comments.
However you may not like the results.

Does not bother me at all, while everyone has the opportunity to voice their opinion.
So far comments and idea's to correct this problem coming from the two groups that have had two meetings so far with another on tap tomorrow are very encouraging, to me anyway.

When all the work is done and submitted it will be up to those that will make the final decision on regulations changes be it FOC, MOE, SFAB or a combination of all three. I think all would agree that is beyond the scope of these committees. I believe the recommendation that come from a group of very knowledgeable anglers and people on both side of the debate will be too hard to just discard into the round filing cabinet. One can ask no more of many that are giving of their free time at personal cost of time and money to do this.

Personally I find when one is over 60 you tend to look at life a little differently and this topic is pretty minor in the whole scheme of things that we all go through during our life span and what a great life it is.

[2:40]

You should Chris as I remember a lot of anglers that are not on the web or belong to a club wrote comments.
However you may not like the results.

Any and all comments are most welcome regardless of the 'results'. They are necessary to involve as many people as possible in this group oriented project.

Out of curiosity, where are these comments? If you're aware of them and obtained permission, Im sure you could forward the messages from those who dont belong to clubs or websites.

If you want to use these 'comments' to make a point, you should have them handy to show.

Just my thoughts.

[Old Black Dog]

The consensus was it is not broken , so do not fix it.

[2:40]

The consensus was it is not broken , so do not fix it.

Unfortunately, as consensus varies on this issue, only the ones submitted or avaliable for others to see can be used or applied.

I say this only out of concern for the apparent anglers who's voices are currently what can only be taken as conjecture at this time.