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[newsman]

Low water and bright sun is a tuff call but Barry and I brought our fair share to hand (a dozen or so each). Most were dark but a few were in good shape. Kept 1 clean doe for the smoker. The males are big this year and strong remind me of the battlers in the Squamish. Anyway here's the trick go dark anything that give a reflection will put them off. We got our on Big Black and black Kaufmann Stone size's 4 & 2. Also watch your shadow if they see it their gone.

[summersteel]

for those who don't know.. you're talking about chums, right?

[newsman]

Yup. No coho yet.

[Xgolfman]

Did you drift the fly's or indicator um Jeff?

[Jonny 5]

Ditto to that.  How do you fish a stonefly nymph to chum?

Thats pretty interesting, I wonder if stoneflys raid fish nests.

[stinkytroutboy]

Sounds , good did you see any chum being caought on anything else...?

[rob.l]

Chum will bite almost anything presented, if they are hungry or pissed off by the gear in front of them.

[Ribwart]

or the fingers of fishers that snagged them...errr....feed them. 

[newsman]

No Indicators I hate them. Drifted the stones with a dry line and lead shooting head, the same tec. I use for Springs. Don't kid yours self the fishing wasn't easy. It's all pocket water fishing and they are holding on the bottom in the deeper holes in each run. You have to get the fly to drop in those pockets, if you don't it just drift over their heads and in the bright sun they aren't interested in moving up for it. We started with black Wooleys, and Big Black hwich worked okay but I felt that maybe size 2 was a bit large for the conditions; so I guessed black Stones (we had size 4's). I figured that they may have fed on stones as smolts and that a stone might be a good trigger. That was Tuesday, yesterday my Met Green was the ticket. Today it was the a pink Bunny Leach. 

[FlyFishin Magician]

>:(yes they cant see the black flys coming so they cant move away,,,i bet longer leaders work better???

Actually, dark flies (black) are easily seen by fish...

[calfisher]

I was told years ago that you will catch more Chum does with black wool (or other material).

I tested the theory and found:

Using orange wool 4 hours = 7 bucks, 1 doe

Same location, tide etc
Using black wool 4 hours = 6 does, 1 buck.

4 days in a row, similar result.  Hope this helps folks looking for roe.

[newsman]

>:(yes they cant see the black flys coming so they cant move away,,,i bet longer leaders work better???

Wrong! If fish can't see dark flies them all those leach eaters would starve. As for long leaders it won't help you in fishing pocketwater because a long leader will mess up your accuracy and cause your fly to float up and out of the strike zone.

[kellya]

I was told years ago that you will catch more Chum does with black wool (or other material).

I tested the theory and found:

Using orange wool 4 hours = 7 bucks, 1 doe

Same location, tide etc
Using black wool 4 hours = 6 does, 1 buck.

4 days in a row, similar result.  Hope this helps folks looking for roe.

Whoa thats interesting. Cool idea to test that out!

[Ribwart]

that is pretty interesting...cool 

[Xgolfman]

Was on the stave today, caught nothing but a sun tan, fished black like you said, nothing, green, red, crystal flash, egg sucking leech in purple and black, indicator with three different egg patterns and stone fly.... Ten different patterns or more...NOT a bump, watched them swim by the fly a few times and turn but never took anything...Only guys who did catch around me were two spey guys who were flossing and one guy with your typical bouncing betty, no float....Just choked the thing as hard as he could and started reeling...both groups brought in a few with these methods...It's interesting, they all released the fish promptly but strange to watch guys be successful with that method and your not catching squat...Doesn't mean I'd switch any time soon..but makes you wonder who's really the fool...Thanks Jeff for the heads up, appreciate it buddy...