Hi Brain,thanks for the response,i recently bought 2 centerpin rods from searun tackle,the 3106L and 3113m,but the only disappiontment i got from these 2 rods is the reel seat,which does not fit my talisman and the hardy long foot,plus it doesnt seat my islander,some of my JW young reels and most of my collection as well as my other pin rod seat,i guess you design on those seat are not just not deep and long enough,i did try to contact searun(kelly and andrew),they understand what i got into,but they just cannot help me with it ,unless they custom built one for me,o well. all i am trying to say your design was good but is not good enough,i also heard they have the same problem with some of the freds customers too. Hope this will help you with your design in the future,and please let me know if you have any suggestion. Thanks