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[Gooey]

The great lakes are tiny river tribs alot of times...no flow so you need light line for stealth and you dont need heavy line for fish control...sorry not a valid comparison.

as well, not many people are fishing light leader in the river right now, its high and dirty so there is no need.  If you read the initial post, the guy actuall had heavy line on, he yarded the fish up out of a log jam.  When he did that (1 minute into the fight), we both saw it was a wild fish.  When you know a fish is going to be released, thast when you should stop pissing around with it. when I see a wild fish I usually tighten my drag down and get them in...not to the point I am horsing them but when I know I can't retain the fish, its a different type situation then.

[troutbreath]

The "old guy" should have known better. I'd give him a "hot wader".

[fishfinder]

A lot of the old timers are "barbers". I personally know three or four of them. A sure sign of a barber is when he doesn't want any help with landing fish as Gooey mentioned, or else he likes to walk his fish a hundred yards down river to land it.

[testo84]

went to vedder today and saw 3 people fishing without floats ( maybe snagging ? )

[TrophyHunter]

went to vedder today and saw 3 people fishing without floats ( maybe snagging ? )

probably tossing spoons

[testo84]

went to vedder today and saw 3 people fishing without floats ( maybe snagging ? )

probably tossing spoons

i dont see a spoon

there is also a weight with a little bit of pink wool

sort of those in sockeye season

[testo84]

How deep of water were they fishing? and how long were the leaders?

all i see were they keep boucning the rod down up down up

dunno what they did

[charles]

^ AGREED, I GET ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE WHEN I C SOMEONE DOING WRONG ON THE RIVER,

Sort of like when someone deliberately does not follow other rules (like grammar) and use capitalization properly.

 

It usually is up to the site mod. and admin. to deal with problem like this one.  If they decide it is ok to yell and shout and it is ok to do it on everything he types, then I guess it is ok here.

[charles]

Like I said before, it is not up to me.  I don't run this site.  I am not even a paid member.  Perhaps that is why I should not make a judgement of that cause I did not pay for the membership.

I totally agree with dennisK.

And birdman, go to any forum and type all capital or even just ask for what all capital typing means.  I am sure people will agree that usually mean shouting or yelling...  But I guess it is different here.  As long as you have friends here, common practice rules do not apply to you.

[Lumps]

How did we get off the topic of landing fish and barbed hooks and on to chat line topics? Rule #2 is don't be so sensitive. Plus Bonk is harmless, he's a flames fan.

[Lumps]

SNAP.

[J.G.]

went to vedder today and saw 3 people fishing without floats ( maybe snagging ? )

probably tossing spoons

i dont see a spoon

there is also a weight with a little bit of pink wool

sort of those in sockeye season

Bottom bouncing is a legitimate technique for fishing rivers. Our neighbors to the south excel with this method. It is also much harder to master than fishing with a float. As long as your leaders are kept short there is no harm with this method. In my oppion it is actually easier to snag fish using a float, although it is easier to "line" fish without a float.

[Lumps]

J.G. do you use the same kind of weight set up and just a shorter leader?

[charles]

Without someone keep doing all caps, DennisK would not have said something about it... and I would not have said something...

So like I said before, having friends here is more important...  

[J.G.]

J.G. do you use the same kind of weight set up and just a shorter leader?

I don't fish with gear very much anymore. But when I do I fish with a float. It's much more productive for faster/pocket type water. Bottom bouncing is better in your stereo typical steelhead pool or run preferably with a bottom of gravel, as opposed to bigger rocks that eat your tackle.

All I was saying was that just because someone is not using a float, it doesn't mean they are flossing or snagging.

The farther you think outside the box, the more fish you will catch. Especially on a heavily fished river like the Vedder.