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[kellya]

black bears are brown often. I highly highly highly doubt any blacky was that big. A black that big is one outta one thousand.  8 feets even a good size for a grizz.

[kingpin]

" am about 40 yards from the path when a very large brown bear emerges from the bush on the upper path" 

as you can see kingpin....he said BROWN BEAR....


anyways....glad you got out and got some fishing in Riverman

i expect that comment came out of pure ignorance, there are no brown bears here. many black bears come in different colour phases, from dark black, to blonde.cinnamon and brown. they are all black bears but are often called brown because of the colour.. a true brown bear are the ones from kodiak island alaska that are bigger than grizzleys.

[fishfryer]

is quebec still part of Canada?

[troutbreath]

http://www.bearsinbc.com/

Just don't hug them or try to dance them, and all wil be OK

[kellya]

Im not trying to be a jerk but michael and fishfreak stick to what ya know. Like kingpin said there area tons of color ranges on blck bears even such thing as a blue black bear in remote areas here on VI. Fishfreak what you saw was not a brown bear it may have been a grizzly and there is a big difference between a brown black bear and a grizz. Grizz can get large black bears are rarely over 6-6.5ft although some monsters are 7ft+. Like kingpin said brown bears in alaska. Im sure riverman can post what type of bear it was. if it was a grizz thats not to common in hope but possible and a cool sight. If it was a brown blackbear it was not 8ft. Personally i almost guarentee both saw a brown black bear and they get big but not 8ft.

[kellya]

fishfreak like i said you dont understand what your talking about so heres some pics to clear this up
Pic 1-this is a BLACK BEAR yes it is brown but this is still called a BLACK BEAR. Its this color all year it doesnt change and its still a black bear. White ,blue ,blonde,brown or black it is still called a black bear. A brown bears a much different thing and species.

Pic 2 This is a Grizzly or BROWN BEAR. they call coastal grizzlies brown bears they are much different than the bear in the picture above. Way bigger and way more dangerous

Now i hope you see what we are saying

[kingpin]

they are called black bears but it doesnt mean there black, brown bears are a totally different species and DO NOT inhabit our area.

[DragonSpeed]

Just to put an actual scientific twist on this brown/grizzly etc thing:

Taxonomy: While there has been much confusion about the taxonomy of brown bears (Ursus arctos), taxonomists agree there are at least two subspecies in North America -- the grizzly bear (U. a. horribilis) and the Kodiak bear (U. a. middendorffi).  There is confusion about whether to consider others, like U. a. gyas and U. a. macfarlani, as separate subspecies.  The Kodiak bear has lived separately on Kodiak, Afognak, and Shuyak Islands in southwestern Alaska for thousands of years with no interbreeding with other populations.  However, there is no such geographic demarcation between the coastal U. a. gyas and the inland U. a. horribilis.  There is a continuum of difference between the larger coastal brown bears and the interior individuals that are generally called grizzly bears.  Coastal brown bears have a greater amount of animal protein in their diet, achieve larger size, and have slight differences in coloration.  At any point from the coast to the interior there is interbreeding between the populations (Jonkel 1987, p 456-473).

Griz and Kodiaks are subspecies of brown.  Browns are NOT bigger than grizzlies, Grizzlies are a subset of browns. Kodiaks may be bigger than grizzlies but they are an orthoganal subset of the browns.  Neither are bigger or small than Brown bears, as they ARE brown bears 
g'nite all!

[Derp]

Alot of people don't realize that black bears have different color fases, and when you people mention black bears,they think it has to be black!

They get confused and when they see a brown fase of a black bear immediatly scream grizzly, or brown bear.

Its ok guys, this is a common noob mistake! 

[Xgolfman]

Im not trying to be a jerk but michael and fishfreak stick to what ya know. Like kingpin said there area tons of color ranges on blck bears even such thing as a blue black bear in remote areas here on VI. Fishfreak what you saw was not a brown bear it may have been a grizzly and there is a big difference between a brown black bear and a grizz. Grizz can get large black bears are rarely over 6-6.5ft although some monsters are 7ft+. Like kingpin said brown bears in alaska. Im sure riverman can post what type of bear it was. if it was a grizz thats not to common in hope but possible and a cool sight. If it was a brown blackbear it was not 8ft. Personally i almost guarentee both saw a brown black bear and they get big but not 8ft.

The bear looked Brown not Black, if i saw a black bear then i would have said i seen a black bear, i never said it was Griz, I know the colour difference i may be wearing glasses but im not completely blind  . So why do YOU tell me I didnt see a brown bear , were you there did you see it     I know what i saw man. it was big, i didnt get a chance to get my measuring tape out and tell the damn thing to stop so i could measured how big it was , i also forgot to ask why it was brown and not black..    I know what i saw so stop trying to tell me i didnt see a brown bear, I dont care if they change colours or not IT WAS BROWN.... Do you get it now Stick to what you know ... Im not Blind 

Call me a smart *** for my reply back... but i know what i saw..

Sorry for the Hi-Jack Im done now.. Kellya you wanna talk more about it Email me.

  woof woof... ..no lights going off yet? poor FF

[troutbreath]

TROUT FISHING IN AMERICA Lyrics

Written by John W. Bratten/Jimmy Kennedy

If you go out in the woods today be sure for a big surprise.
If you go out in the woods today you better go in disguise.
For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

Picnic time for teddy bears
The little teddy bears are havin' a lovely day today.
Watch them, catch them unaware
And see them picnic on their holiday.
See them gaily gad about, they love to play and shout
And never have any care!
At six o'clock their mommies and daddies will take them
home to bed
Because they're tired little teddy bears.

[MERC]

So, people are looking at brown colored "black bears" that might even be teddy bears on a picnic.   

Grrr...grr...grrr.......

Woof woof!!!!

[4x4]

I have no doubt that FishFreak saw a brown coloured bear. I've seen many over the years. Some were Black Bears and some were Grizzlies.
I've actually heard a few reports over the last 5 years of Grizz sightings in the Chilliwack Lake area. Grizzlies are making a come back in the Naramata, Coq toll booth and Skagit River area, so Chilliwack Lake is also possible.

Having said that I would bet that double F saw a brown coloured Black Bear. The spirit Bear is a white Black Bear.

I have a pic from May27th that shows a mother Black Bear with 2 large cubs. One black and one brown. If someone wants to see and post it I can e-mail the pic to you.

[kellya]

Fishfreak i was jsut trying to explain it to you.

"The bear looked Brown not Black, if i saw a black bear then i would have said i seen a black bear, i never said it was Griz, I know the colour difference i may be wearing glasses but im not completely blind   . So why do YOU tell me I didnt see a brown bear , were you there "

"Stick to what you know ... Im not Blind"
 
Not blind just no clue as to what your arguing about. When i head up fishin tommorow night ill snap a few BLACK BEAR pics ushually 5+ pokin around.

 

[dennyman]

Saw this on the Fish BC site, the story about the hunter who shot a huge grizzly down at Bella Coola. In the one article by the hunter there are some nice pics of the bear. The bear was about 9 feet in length. As you can see from the pics the bear looks just plain huge. So for those that saw the big bears locally, my question is are you sure your bear was this big.

http://huntshoot.coastangler.com/hunting/f...unt.2007-10798/