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What is Bottom Bouncing to you?

Sporting
- 20 (29%)
Harvest for any species of salmon
- 5 (7.2%)
Snagging
- 19 (27.5%)
Harvest but only for Sockeye
- 17 (24.6%)
Dont care I'll do what ever is in the regs that gives me the best chance to catch a fish regardless if it bites or not.
- 8 (11.6%)

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chris gadsden

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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2007, 01:55:44 PM »

Here we go again. Time for the heated debates!  :'(
In all respect no heated debates are needed. As other have said it has been covered very well before, by both sides of the debate. However we have now got to the point if the selective methods that are asked for by FOC are not adhered to the fishery will be closed down.

I attend many meetings on this subject so I am just relating the information I hear. I donot believe I am hearing it differently if so others are free to correct me.

As a added point there will be no sockeye fishery in 2008 because of low returns and this season the word is it will be short so a good opportunity to take up bar fishing.

Thankfully they are giving us a choice as they should, it is in our own hands now.
As far as catching sockeye on bar rigs it usually is a very uncommon occurrence as I and many other long time bar fishers will testify to.

Last year when we had our Fish BC bar fish in I know we hooked two or three and then on another trip we were into another but this is out of the ordinary.

Heading fishing now, others can offer their opinions while I try to land my second chinook of  the season after 150 hours of fishing to date, fresh bugs should be the ticket. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2007, 02:34:36 PM »

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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2007, 03:02:23 PM »

 There was a drift net down by the new westminister casino yesterday evening . If the run is so small , they should do something about the drift nets .
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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2007, 03:09:10 PM »

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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2007, 03:13:11 PM »

I have caught many sockeye while barfishing, so what do you do?

kinda funny , nobody mentions this!
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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2007, 05:18:52 PM »

the gates on the Abbotsford side have been replaced at KWB and Barrowtown and they are NOT going to be opened.

Hey just a question, is the barrowtown launch still open? I'm assuming the gate is on the dyke portion, and not the actual boat launch... Anyone know?

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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2007, 06:23:56 PM »

what has been going on vandalism wise on the abby side?

I thought it was illegal duming and riparian damage from all those two strokes that was the problem?

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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2007, 10:15:03 AM »

From what I saw this past weekend there won't be any fishing on that river for quite some time, it is huge huge huge !!!
seems to be much higher than I have ever seen at this time of year... Hell's gate was definately living up to it's name  :o The side channel at Laidlaw that we can usually wade across was at least 100 feet wide and raging !! It is kind of scary when you walk down to the river and it gives you shivers because it is so crazy looking !!!

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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2007, 06:46:12 PM »

LOL. This site is more of a gong show than the fraser in peak sockeye season. And rodney and nina are the only CO's. Give 'em a break.


BTW, i got my first report of a spring caught in the fraser. It was caught Bottom Bouncing (before this notice came out) near scale bar.
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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2007, 10:04:19 PM »

Keep in mind so far there has been no announcement from D.F.O  to request "selective methods" or any "no fishing for Sockeye" announcement as of yet.
Those anglers that are Flossing do so legally at this time and are not disregarding any requests or any "no fishing" regulations.
If you agree with it or not is a completely different issue.

This issue comes up every season and I for one am very tired of it. This request business from D.F.O is complete nonsense. No where else in government or law is there requests to do anything. It is either O.K. or its not. This grey area is no way to manage this fishery. It is either legal or its not. This is just political maneuvering and only servers to divide the angling community and cause confusion. The real fact of the mater is that we do not adversely affect the Stuart run of fish and D.F.O knows this there numbers prove it. The test fishery used to kill many more Stuart fish than we ever did not to mention all the nets "selectively" fishing for Chinook. This is pure politics. Catch and release works.

This issue needs to regulated once and for all either allow flossing or don't allow flossing make it clear but so far D.F.O has resisted doing this and we fall all over ourselves blaming each other when we have practically no effect on the species that is of concern. We are a political pawn, we are the most visible user group, but we have the smallest impact on the fish. Divide and conquer seems to be the strategy and we fall for it every time.

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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2007, 11:43:36 PM »

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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2007, 09:48:25 AM »

I am not trying to start anything here but does this notice from the SFAC have any merit behind it or not. Since they are an advisory board for the DFO and not exactly the DFO. Just a question as there has not been an official notice from DFO as of yet. I am not going to go to the fraser anytime soon as the lakes are still productive and I enjoy the solitude that my pontoon provides. Without there being an official notice what is going to stop people from thinking twice about bb'ing.
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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2007, 08:23:23 PM »

It says" methods that do not catch sockeye", bar fishing, pulling plugs,flyfishing,and throwing hardware catch sockeye so should these methods be banned.

And this notice dose not mention bottom bouncing.
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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2007, 10:05:21 AM »

Why doesn't DFO list the techniques that catch sockeye. Major gray area. There needs to be research on how many socks are caught using various techniques and on catch and release techniques for socks.

I don't see a problem with catch and release. Catch and release is an excepted technique in BC and the USA. If I use heavy gear and bring the sock in quickly for the release, what is the problem? Water temp is not an issue right now either.
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Re: 2007 Fraser River selective fishing method request notice
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2007, 10:15:48 AM »

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