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London's Landing again, July 3rd, 2007
« on: July 03, 2007, 09:35:58 PM »

After connecting with numerous species yesterday evening, I was itching to go back for a couple of hours this evening. The fishing was still challenging, bites were spotty. Here's a chubby porn of the day, eat that Chrome Mykiss. ;D



Big cargo ships are common on the South Arm of the Fraser River.



If you see people leaving sculpins or other fish on the pier to die, throw the fish back and tell the fishermen off please. It makes my blood boil when people can go about their business normally after leaving a fish dying slowly on the pier especially when the fish is not to be kept.

This is of course another reason that we are having Saturday's event, to make sure the next generations of fishermen are responsible and appreciate all living things.

After fishing, I bumped into Sinaran while putting up a poster at the parking lot. Maybe he'll have a better report than me tonight. ;D
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Re: London's Landing again, July 3rd, 2007
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2007, 02:34:05 PM »

Rodney, I told people the same thing over and over again with the dogfish fishing in Ambleside.  They always claim that they will take them home but when they leave, the fish were still there dead...  It is just so sad...

I fish them for fun and I always release them...  I don't give them away unless to a friend that I know he is going to eat them.  I just know someone will want it and show it off on the pier and leave it to die...

perhaps DFO and print out something in the future to further educate this issue.
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Re: London's Landing again, July 3rd, 2007
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2007, 06:07:07 PM »

Nah rod, i got skunked yesterday evening. :(   My sis and I were fishing one rod each with shrimp, we couldn't get a hit at all.....
not a lot of action there either. people catching peamouth chubs once a while, and it was slow overall. 

That issue is really a concern down at No.3rd. dock and the pier at london's landing.  Some people just don't appreciate lives at all, and they would leave the unwanted fish jumping and struggling on the ground and themselves carry-on to fish.  And when i asked them why did they do that, some will answer" i want to catch some other fish, to avoid catching the same fish, i am not throwing it back in the water".  that's just disgusting. i had to throw the fish back without asking them and if they got mad at me, i would tell them i've just saved them hundreds of dollars in fine.    幹你娘poacher...
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Re: London's Landing again, July 3rd, 2007
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2007, 06:58:03 PM »

Sinaran, the language... :o ;)

This is one issue that I don't enjoy discussing because everytime I start talking about, it makes me furious, but there is a need to bringing it up constantly otherwise it will just keep growing.

Personally I hate seeing unnecessary death, especially when it is a slow one. I can't sit there and enjoy the fishing while a small fish is flapping around beside me while the person who catches it continues about with his business as if nothing out of a norm is taking place. It's a different mentality. Most of the people who are doing this are newly immigrants from China or other parts of Asia, it's a way of life and ideology on how fishing should be for them. What angers me is the fact that people continue to do so after being told off. As an immigrant myself, I believe that we should be doing our best to appreciate what has been offered and contribute to make what's available better. It's not happening here.

There are several solutions. Education would be on top of my list. I would like to think everyone has the ability to change when reasonings of those changes are understood. In the past two years I have been corresponding with the City of Richmond and Fisheries and Oceans Canada to have information boards set up at the main fishing locations (No. 3 Road Pier, No. 2 Road Pier, Garry Point Park). The boards would serve several purposes, one is to tell people what fish are available in the area, what they need to know if they want to fish, and important phone numbers to report violations. This project hasn't really gone anywhere. Last year the City rejected these FREE boards that DFO has provided because they were apparently not pretty enough. Since then, the Lower Fraser resource manager position at DFO has changed so we are back to square one until I bring the new person up-to-date on what's going on. The resource manager's top priority is the Fraser River salmon fishery, so I doubt this will be dealt with before this winter.

The other solution would just be to develop an information sheet that clearly states killing of unwanted fish is a violation, in both Chinese and English, as well as the mandatory release of sturgeon, wild trout and char, and phone numbers of DFO. I would have the sheet laminated, pinned at the pier. I can read most of the Chinese characters, but I can't write well or have the program to type them so others would have to do that.

The movement here has to be a positive one. If people are being told to put unwanted fish back to avoid fines, then DFO would be portrayed as the enemy to watch out for instead of an agency that anglers need to work with.

What would make this and hosting the annual event like this Saturday's easier is to have an organization formed here. Perhaps, the Greater Vancouver Salmon Society, or Greater Vancouver Angling Society. With a solid number of membership, it would actually move projects along much faster. Since we started doing "Fish for the Future", this idea has brushed by many times but I am not keen on doing unless quite a few people are onboard, because I want to have a life too... ;D

Come to the event on Saturday, we can talk about it more. ;)

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Re: London's Landing again, July 3rd, 2007
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 12:00:46 AM »

What would make this and hosting the annual event like this Saturday's easier is to have an organization formed here. Perhaps, the Greater Vancouver Salmon Society, or Greater Vancouver Angling Society. With a solid number of membership, it would actually move projects along much faster. Since we started doing "Fish for the Future", this idea has brushed by many times but I am not keen on doing unless quite a few people are onboard, because I want to have a life too... ;D

Come to the event on Saturday, we can talk about it more. ;)

Im in! Of course, I will be sitting on the other side of the Atlantic….at least for the time being ::)

I think it is a very good idea to start some kind of organization based in Richmond or Vancouver and I have urged Rodney many times to start one, well knowing how much more work it would mean for him. If other people would get on board I am sure it would work and we would be able to create a powerful group; one to be reckoned with.  :)
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