Ask around Rodney, I have been doing stuff and I have been trying to keep away from these internet flossing debates recently unfortunately it seems like sticking my head in the sand by not mentioning it on a public forum. As for physically doing something to the offenders, I'm almost 60 years old does it seem logical to wade in the water with 40 or 50 guys bottom bouncing and tell them to quit hooking sockeye, just remember the reputation the Scale bar has for violence and if you actually read my post you would have realised that I was on the other side of the river watching with binoculars. You Rodney, in the name of nutrality sit on your thumb and say nothing on your forum even though I have been told you have strong opinions on the matter, you don't have the jam to state them online and then you mock me for saying I was discusted what would you suggest I do. I have done everything possible to keep my comments as inoffensive as possible to other fishermen but let me tell you I am offended by your wah wah wah comment.