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Author Topic: Anyone caught one of the Blackwater 2.5lb'ers at LaFarge yet ?  (Read 8168 times)

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Re: Anyone caught one of the Blackwater 2.5lb'ers at LaFarge yet ?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2007, 06:04:21 PM »


What would be more welcoming is to designate a few lakes close to Vancouver as catch and release lakes, and put in larger fish so there isn't a net loss in stocks and quality of fishing remains high. This type of management would cater both introductory anglers who wish to take a few fish home in put and take lakes, as well as those who wish to only catch and release but do not wish to drive 4 hours to the nearest quality lakes. One scenario would be keeping put and take designation for Sasamat Lake, while making Buntzen Lake catch and release only. The two lakes are next two each other, so those who travel to the area can choose which fishery they wish to participate in.

If Fisheries were to dump bigger fish into a lake like Buntzen and make it a catch and release lake these fish likely wouldn't size up very fast if at all because from what I've been told these coastal lakes aren't very fertile at all compared to their interior cousins.  Some lakes up there are so abundant with aquatic life that fish have been known to grow a close to a pound a month.  ie. Kidd Lake
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Re: Anyone caught one of the Blackwater 2.5lb'ers at LaFarge yet ?
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2007, 07:44:42 PM »

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"What would be more welcoming is to designate a few lakes close to Vancouver as catch and release lakes, and put in larger fish so there isn't a net loss in stocks and quality of fishing remains high. This type of management would cater both introductory anglers who wish to take a few fish home in put and take lakes, as well as those who wish to only catch and release but do not wish to drive 4 hours to the nearest quality lakes. One scenario would be keeping put and take designation for Sasamat Lake, while making Buntzen Lake catch and release only. The two lakes are next two each other, so those who travel to the area can choose which fishery they wish to participate in."

   I agree Rod, I think that's a great idea.I think buntzen is good choice for it as well ,it has size and depth.I also believe the fish would have no problem growing.

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Re: Anyone caught one of the Blackwater 2.5lb'ers at LaFarge yet ?
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2007, 08:43:35 PM »

Not only catch and release lakes but would also be nice to see them go totall catch and release on a couple rivers to see what they would produce after a few cycles.
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Re: Anyone caught one of the Blackwater 2.5lb'ers at LaFarge yet ?
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2007, 09:48:06 PM »


   I agree Rod, I think that's a great idea.I think buntzen is good choice for it as well ,it has size and depth.I also believe the fish would have no problem growing.

If Buntzen was capable of growing fish there'd be fish over 5 lbs. lurking around there because they don't winterkill and they all don't get caught and killed.  Glacier fed lakes on the coast are notoriously low in nutrients.
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Re: Anyone caught one of the Blackwater 2.5lb'ers at LaFarge yet ?
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2007, 09:54:13 PM »


   I agree Rod, I think that's a great idea.I think buntzen is good choice for it as well ,it has size and depth.I also believe the fish would have no problem growing.

If Buntzen was capable of growing fish there'd be fish over 5 lbs. lurking around there because they don't winterkill and they all don't get caught and killed.  Glacier fed lakes on the coast are notoriously low in nutrients.

This is very true. I spoke to a fisheries person in regards to Alouette and he said the same thing. Not enough feed in these lakes and for what feed it does have the fish have to fight over it.
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Re: Anyone caught one of the Blackwater 2.5lb'ers at LaFarge yet ?
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2007, 10:10:19 PM »


   I agree Rod, I think that's a great idea.I think buntzen is good choice for it as well ,it has size and depth.I also believe the fish would have no problem growing.

If Buntzen was capable of growing fish there'd be fish over 5 lbs. lurking around there because they don't winterkill and they all don't get caught and killed.  Glacier fed lakes on the coast are notoriously low in nutrients.

This is very true. I spoke to a fisheries person in regards to Alouette and he said the same thing. Not enough feed in these lakes and for what feed it does have the fish have to fight over it.

But did the refertilization of the Allouette not solve this problem. From what I have herd is that the fish especially the kokenee are bigger then ever because of the work that hydro has paid for. This is also why the salmon runs are getting stronger as well because the fertilization they did in the lake has also helped in the river.
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Re: Anyone caught one of the Blackwater 2.5lb'ers at LaFarge yet ?
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2007, 10:35:21 PM »

It definitely worked in Allouette.
I hope they plan on continuing it there.
No reason why that lake couldnt be an awesome fishery for big Rainbows.
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Re: Anyone caught one of the Blackwater 2.5lb'ers at LaFarge yet ?
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2007, 11:10:03 AM »

I went to lafarge on Saturday and the fishing was really good I was getting bites like every cast. I finally hooked one and it was about 1 pound or more. I was fishing off shore using power bait. when those frisken fish hit they hit hard because my rod was bent over big time when he hit.
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Re: Anyone caught one of the Blackwater 2.5lb'ers at LaFarge yet ?
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2007, 12:07:23 PM »


   I agree Rod, I think that's a great idea.I think buntzen is good choice for it as well ,it has size and depth.I also believe the fish would have no problem growing.

If Buntzen was capable of growing fish there'd be fish over 5 lbs. lurking around there because they don't winterkill and they all don't get caught and killed.  Glacier fed lakes on the coast are notoriously low in nutrients.


This is very true. I spoke to a fisheries person in regards to Alouette and he said the same thing. Not enough feed in these lakes and for what feed it does have the fish have to fight over it.

But did the refertilization of the Allouette not solve this problem. From what I have herd is that the fish especially the kokenee are bigger then ever because of the work that hydro has paid for. This is also why the salmon runs are getting stronger as well because the fertilization they did in the lake has also helped in the river.

The problem is their is so many kokanee. Thats the reason you dont find any kokanee over 12 inches. If their were less of them they would be bigger. Compare the kokanee of Alouette to those of Kawkawa. Kawkawa has kokanee up to 16 inches ( atleast form my experience ) Kawkawa either has less fish or just more feed.
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Re: Anyone caught one of the Blackwater 2.5lb'ers at LaFarge yet ?
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2007, 09:55:57 AM »





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The problem is their is so many kokanee. Thats the reason you dont find any kokanee over 12 inches. If their were less of them they would be bigger. Compare the kokanee of Alouette to those of Kawkawa. Kawkawa has kokanee up to 16 inches ( atleast form my experience ) Kawkawa either has less fish or just more feed.
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Maybe stocking Gerrard's in Alouette could be of some benefit. Then we would have monster trout with lots of food to eat. I guess you might see a increase in size of the kokanee after the Gerrards take a share of them. The conditions are pretty good for Gerrards in Alouette.

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Re: Anyone caught one of the Blackwater 2.5lb'ers at LaFarge yet ?
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2007, 03:47:25 PM »



If Buntzen was capable of growing fish there'd be fish over 5 lbs. lurking around there because they don't winterkill and they all don't get caught and killed.  Glacier fed lakes on the coast are notoriously low in nutrients.
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    garibladi is an very cold lake and glacier fed (its only about 5months iceoff), but there are so many fish in there ive caught rainbows constantly 11-16inchers  and ive seen some big ones spawing  over 3pounds
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