well, thanks for the info. i ended up going to lafarge lake,in search of some sleepy brood stock. as a downtown resident, i usually head up the 99 for my lake fishing, heading east for the wack when the steelhead call . i had never fished lafarge before, so when i saw it on the map i figured i could kill two birds with one stone, as my wife really wanted to check out the new h+m at coquitlam centre. it is pretty fantastic that i could fish while she shopped, although, naively, a little more urban then i would have expected. i actually heard someone say "oh my gosh, there is someone fishing out there". so i focused on the new rod, pretended that i was at one of locals and had a good time. tally for the end of the day: wife=three shirts, one pair jeans, and a new jacket; dan: no fish and the realization that i have a leak in the crotch of my waders. the plus side is that my little 7"6 4 weight is a dream a will share many more memorable moments on the water with me.