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[chris gadsden]

While at a meeting last night we got a copy of the official regulations for many rivers in Region 2. There is no recreational fishing for chinook in the Fraser River until at least June 16 and that is not a given either.

As far as sockeye it states "no opportunities anticipated"

I also notice in Region three (Thompson - Nicola) there is a notice that says "steelhead fisheries in the 2008/09 season will be closed".

Not sure if that notice has appeared before and in season changes will once again be made.

[Rodney]

I also notice in Region three (Thompson - Nicola) there is a notice that says "steelhead fisheries in the 2008/09 season will be closed".

Not sure if that notice has appeared before and in season changes will once again be made.

That is always listed in Region 3 (Page 40) of Freshwater Fishing Regulation Booklet with in-season opportunities announced later on (eg. the Thompson River fishery).

[mastercaster]

Hey... as long as the natives get to net illegally again it's really not that different from last year's regs except for that month and a half where you can't fish for springs.  And during the last month of that closure the springs can't see squat anyway because of the freshet causing high dirty water.

[Fish Assassin]

Thanks for the info Chris. Sad to see our salmon stocks have fallen to this degree.

[chris gadsden]

Thanks for the info Chris. Sad to see our salmon stocks have fallen to this degree.

"Spawning escapements of early timed Fraser River chinook have declined precipitously in recent years. Recent management actions have not been successful at reversing the declining abundance of early timed Fraser chinook. Additional measures during the March to June time period will be implemented in portions of Area 19 and 20 and in the Fraser River."

[chris gadsden]

Hey... as long as the natives get to net illegally again it's really not that different from last year's regs except for that month and a half where you can't fish for springs.  And during the last month of that closure the springs can't see squat anyway because of the freshet causing high dirty water.

I believe you will see enforcement stepped up here as well, as many including FOC are very concerned about these stocks.

[ever_hopefull]

Hey... as long as the natives get to net illegally again it's really not that different from last year's regs except for that month and a half where you can't fish for springs.  And during the last month of that closure the springs can't see squat anyway because of the freshet causing high dirty water.

The commercial guys have been shut down in areas that can target Chinook; the Vanc. Island recreational fishing has a size limit that will avoid both early timed Fraser fish and lower Georgia Strait Chinook; the Fraser is closed till the middle of June; and the time alloted for First Nations food fishery is cut in half from last year with a start date a month later than last year.  Unlike last year, First Nations have not been getting permits for ceremonial fishing (weddings, naming ceremonies, first fish ceremonies etc.) with the only exception for funerals and those permits have gear/time/quantity limits.  Therefore there is a difference from last year, which hopefully will result in a few more fish 4 years from now.

[roeman]

Time to buy stocks in belly boats and pontoon boats for lake fishing

[Fish Assassin]

Or target pikeminnows and carp

[Trout Slayer]

Fish dont really start getting caught until late June anyways.

[roeman]

The writing is all over the wall.
No sockeye opening again.
Delay in Spring fishing.
Poor Pink Salmon return last year.
Gravel removal at Spring Bar damaging spawning grounds..
Possibly a $60.00 tag for sturgeon fishing.

The June 16 opening date is only a tentative date, feels like a head game to me. 

If Springs don't start getting caught until late June, why not open as usual and close during the peak time for the first couple of weeks..  Makes no sense to me unless there are different runs earlier.. 

[Jimmy]

If Springs don't start getting caught until late June, why not open as usual and close during the peak time for the first couple of weeks..  Makes no sense to me unless there are different runs earlier.. 

This keeps the flossers out of the river during freshet. Still nothing in writing about leader restrictions or fixed weights, and guys can't get the hints and self regulate themselves on the river.

Close it for a year or two and once it re opens there may be a new respect for what we have.

[johnny]

If Springs don't start getting caught until late June, why not open as usual and close during the peak time for the first couple of weeks..  Makes no sense to me unless there are different runs earlier.. 

This keeps the flossers out of the river during freshet. Still nothing in writing about leader restrictions or fixed weights, and guys can't get the hints and self regulate themselves on the river.

Close it for a year or two and once it re opens there may be a new respect for what we have.

And what about those that make their living guiding?? Easy to just say "close it down" but it's implications(including present and future tourism dollars spent fishing this area) would be IMO huge.

[yoda]

considering all the mismanagement issues that seem to happen, and pot shots between user groups,at least this move has a positive impact for the fish. we must stop worrying about our needs, and focus on the needs of our resouce!

[Sam Salmon]

And what about those that make their living guiding?? Easy to just say "close it down" but it's implications(including present and future tourism dollars spent fishing this area) would be IMO huge.

Why should we as sport fishermen care about those who make money on the backs of fish who/what is more important someone's job or fish in the river?

Some guides are active members of conservations groups many are not.

What did those people do before they decided to guide, it's a buoyant economy with jobs aplenty and tourism has never been bigger.