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[Nicole]

Its amusing the natives are doing the study, what do you think the outcome is going to be?

 
Nicole

[BwiBwi]

Stats is for manipulation.  It can be determined to fit own need.  So whatever the outcome it depends on the users intent.

[canoe man]

how are these fish going to be monitored
are they going to be held in some sort of tank or net/compound
just the stress from that should kill off some fish as they try to keep swiming up stream
but keep banging into a net wall
remember last years sokeye return on the allouette
they made it up to the dam and kept banging into it
talk about stress
also are springs included in this study?

is there going to be 24hr survielence
lets see large pen lots of sokeye nobody around
sounds mighty tempting

as for the outcome of the study
i think it will give dfo the proof they need
to impliment a gear restriction on the fraser
when sockeye is not open

it wont affect me but it will for quite alot of people
from guides to tackle shops and local economies
but first they need the proof that bottom bounced c+r sokeye =dead sockeye

cnm

[GoldHammeredCroc]

Just curious how today was and were there any immediate results that can be documented that the anglers saw?

[adriaticum]

This is a waste of time.

A better study would be on how many of the 150,000 sockeye the FNs caught, were commercially sold.

[Dave]

This study is NOT a waste of time.  This is an opportunity to collect real, not anecdotal, data on sockeye caught by angling on the Fraser River.  Data on mortality rates and the long and short term physiological stress endured by these fish when released is critical for DFO managers to make science based decisions.  This study was first suggested about 15 years ago – kudos to the FSWP for funding this very necessary research.

[GoldHammeredCroc]

Good response Dave.  Did you go and have a look yourself?

[Dave]

Hey  GHC

No, I am not involved in this study, other than a big time interest in the results.  The contractor is respected, experts in DFO vetted this research, and I have huge respect for the people who represent the Fraser Basin Council.
The results will benefit fish and I like that.

[Rodney]

Posting this as requested.

Today was Day 1 of the recreational sockeye catch & release study. Anglers met with the biologist, Jim Thomas and DFO representative Debra Sneddon at 8:00 AM at Island 22 boat launch.  We ferried fishermen to Grassy Bar and proceeded to catch fish.  There were several periods of intense activity followed by seriously slow time.  We had a total of 20 anglers today with 10 staying the entire time 8 - 3 pm.  We attained our sample size of 30 fish for the day at 3:00 pm and called it a day.  We will be meeting each morning from August 6 to 9th at 8:00 am at Island 22 boat launch.  We will be fishing each day until we reach 30 -35 sockeye.  If you are interested in participating please join us either at the boat launch or on the bar.

[milo]

Planning on going this Friday.
I have room for another three people in my truck.

Leaving from East Vancouver at 6:20AM, with a pit-stop at RFT & TH @ Whatcom Road at 7:00 AM.

Cheers,

Milo

[canoe man]

dam i cant do it this week but i am tying to talk my boss into
the next culling time
maybe get him in on it to
still havent heard if springs are involved
what happens then
how long are they holding these fish
not alot of info 

cnm

[troutmuncher]

I was at Grassy bar yesterday .Me and two other guys were trying to get springs when the people from the study group asked us to join in the sockeye mortality study program.They would wait nearby with a bag to grab any sockeye we dragged in then put them in a net pen.They said they were going to put in a larger pen, hold the fish for 24hours to see which died.Sockeyes were large about 10 or so pounds.Nobody of the 30 or so people caught a spring that we were hoping for though it was all sockeye.Got some nifty hats from them though.They seem to be camping there but I think i saw a seal swimming in the river,better watch those pens!

[milo]

Hey ,troutmuncher, what weight betties work best at the study location?

I need to buy a few for tomorrow and would rather not go too heavy or too light.

Thanks.

[shaunm]

About 2 or 2.5 ...but the guys running the study have some weights,hooks,leader that you are welcome to use.

[milo]

Thanks, shaunm.