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ejeffrey

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Some good news for once?
« on: September 10, 2008, 07:25:58 AM »
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kodiak

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Re: Some good news for once?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2008, 08:25:52 AM »
It's great to hear a positive report  ;D
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Re: Some good news for once?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2008, 10:43:09 AM »
  I heard some inkling of this last year as well that the ocean conditions have been improving. definatel a step in the right direction...
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Re: Some good news for once?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2008, 10:53:10 AM »
This is bit of good news/bad news. Good to hear that ocean conditions are improving, but as seen in some other threads with gravel extraction occurring on rivers for instance this really hurts the salmon during spawning, and also the young salmon fry. End result if less young salmon make it to the ocean there will be no improvement in salmon stocks.
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Re: Some good news for once?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2008, 03:44:35 PM »
hopefully these conditions improve the sockeye run as well!
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Re: Some good news for once?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2008, 04:50:52 PM »
Quote from: dennyman on September 10, 2008, 10:53:10 AM
This is bit of good news/bad news. Good to hear that ocean conditions are improving, but as seen in some other threads with gravel extraction occurring on rivers for instance this really hurts the salmon during spawning, and also the young salmon fry. End result if less young salmon make it to the ocean there will be no improvement in salmon stocks.

Right now there are almost no salmon spawning in the Vedder, which means there are no eggs to kill. Also the fact that most of the fry's have already gone out to the ocean and if not there are lots of creeks around that have fresh (clear) water flowing in where they can clean their gills, etc. Gravel extraction has to be done by the end of this month. The worst part of the Vedder are the huge clay slides that happen at rondom times. The clay smothers eggs, IMO we should worry about stabalizing those than worry about gravel extraction.

On another note... the Fraser gravel extraction should not be happening, but they normally do it on gravel bars where salmon have not spawned, and water clarity of the fraser isn;t that great to begin with.
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Re: Some good news for once?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2008, 07:13:41 PM »
Looking at several pictures of the Fraser opperations, I disagree.  Chris has pics of dead alevin that were stranded.  The contractor also used little to no BMP's while doing the operation i.e., silt fence, re-fueling stations, vegetable oil for hydraulic fluid, pumping water out to a settling pond, using fish screens on the pumps, not nuking riparian vegetation, to name a few.  They also drove pile which kills way more than you would think. 
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