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[vaskerelva]

I read in a post something about Boldary hole(Where the rivers meet after the hatcery) in chilliwack was closed is that true?

[fisherwithrod]

Yes, I believe that this fishery notice is still in effect:

http://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/xnet/content/fns/index.cfm?pg=view_notice&lang=en&DOC_ID=111340&ID=recreational

The "no fishing" boundary has been moved 100 metres downstream from the confluence of Chilliwack & Slesse.

[tooler91]

Question is, will they reopen in anytime soon?

[vaskerelva]

This means a new rule fore this year? last year there was closed in a line of the two small rivers. What is the reason fore closing it?

[Fish Assassin]

So enough springs can return to the hatchery for brood stock.

[vaskerelva]

So they made the rule because of there was to small amount of springs last year?  -  the forecast fore this year is a lot more springs than last year isn't it?

[chris gadsden]

Yes it is still closed. Tickets were issued there yesterday. Some beaks are ripping down the signs there also.

The problem with this spot and I think most that have viewed what goes on there will agree the majority of people that work this area are snagging, and long lining the fish that are staging there before entering the hatchery. I am sure others will comment further.

[vaskerelva]

Yes it is still closed. Tickets were issued there yesterday. Some beaks are ripping down the signs there also.

The problem with this spot and I think most that have viewed what goes on there will agree the majority of people that work this area are snagging, and long lining the fish that are staging there before entering the hatchery. I am sure others will comment further.

Yes there was a lot of dirty fishing there   We told a lot of people to stop snagging - but they told it was a "Tradision", in one week we snag maksimum 4 fish

[Nucks]

Question is, will they reopen in anytime soon?

I hope not as this is one of the biggest gong shows on the river not to mention the trees have been desicrated by campers looking for firewood. That used to be one the money holes on the river. Now, its beak after beak, litter, and dead trees.

[adriaticum]

Foul hooking fish is the new way of fishing it seems.
There was a good post here in the past week about it. Everybody and their uncle is snagging fish.
Even guys who appear to be die hard fishermen with centerpin reels, drennan floats, etc... are snagging them left, right and
centre.
Its pitiful.

[Every Day]

Yea... limit hole is closed now.... 

GO LOOK AT THE FREAKING EMBUTMENT  Way worse than limit hole ever was. Someone should take a bulldozer in there and open it way up so that people cant snag in a 6 foot wide slot. I hope they keep limit hole closed though, easier to report the beaks at embutment since there is cell phone reception 

[tooler91]

I also have to agree with cammer. On one wed afternoon last Oct, I ran into a few people that were blatantly snagging fish. When they tok out my float for the 3rd or 4th time, I had to say something. One of them mumbled something to me in Russian (I think) and flased what looked like a pistol in his belt under his coat. I moved firther downstream from them after that. Snaggers ruin it for other fisherman.

I agree with a temporary closure of the boundry hole to ensure a better return of fish. This is one of my favorite spots late in the year. I caught my largest fish ever there last year at the end of Oct, a fairly bright 43 pound chinook. It took me 20 minutes to land it on only 15 pound leader. It smoked up great.
Best fishing day of my life.

[milo]

This post may get deleted but i have to say there is a large quotient of a certain European background that is common to this practice and they really dont care what you say to them about ethics , it is the truth that there seems to be more of this one group into this fishing way(scale bar commoners) and im not being racist or typecasting but if there is to be change,  you have to identify this problem and educate in appropiate languages

Cammer, unfortunately, you are right.
I know some of those people as I have fished with a few of them many moons ago.
I have drifted away from them, and their techniques, largely thanks to forums like this one, and my personal desire to evolve.
I have managed to convert a couple of them, but others...all that matters to them is getting the fish. They are of the mentality that a fishless day is a bad day, and they feel entitled to the fish because they have their licenses and tags.

With some of them I don't even speak anymore because they know I'd report them if I see them - regardless of the fact that they are a personal acquaintance of mine.
One of them got a ticket two years ago when I reported him double dipping for sockeye. He threatened me on the phone and called me a bunch of nasty names. I just showed up at his place and asked him to act on his threat. Of course he backed off - he is a pathetic wuss.
However, these guys hardly fish by themselves, and in a group, they feel empowered.

My advice is to just walk away and call the RAPP line. Let CO officers deal with them.

GO LOOK AT THE FREAKING EMBUTMENT   Way worse than limit hole ever was. Someone should take a bulldozer in there and open it way up so that people cant snag in a 6 foot wide slot

My thoughts exactly.Hopefully, a good flood will wash away the embutment. Years ago, it was a nice fly fishing spot, before sedimentation created the funnel.

[milo]

Milo, could the fishing ethics of these anglers perhaps go back to when they lived in their native country and where catching a fish by any means meant full stomachs for their families? Am I giving them too much benefit of the doubt? I know probably it is the get a fish at any cost, too bad that they are giving their nationality a bad name in angling circles.

Your assessment is correct.
They figure if they are spending money on gas, licenses and tackle, they might as well get something in return.
Angling for pleasure is not something embedded in the Slavic gene pool.

I also like my meat, and I generally target species I can kill (trout excluded - don't like the taste much).
However, being out there is my primary motivator, the meat is a welcome bonus.
Yesterday is a prime example...the cleanup, the exploring of new waters, meeting friends on the water.
I got royally skunked (not even one hookup), yet yesterday has been by far my best day on the river this year.

That is something the Eastern European gang in general doesn't quite get. The hunter-gatherer instinct is still too strong in them.

[milo]

From my observations, that would be Eastern Europeans (Serbs, Russians, Czechs, Poles...), and some Asian ethnic groups (primarily Chinese and Vietnamese).

Mind you, I usually stay away from the well-known meat holes. It's just not worth it - unless it is not crowded (a rare ocurrence, but it can happen) - or unless it is a honey hole that hasn't yet become mainstream.
As many among you know from personal experience, just yards away from well known meat holes, there is neglected water that can produce with the right approach.